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Facts and Politics
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Heyo
Veteran Member
I used to think so but then Donald Trump taught me I was mistaken.
I think facts are neutral, although the words people choose to describe the facts may not be. Just as the old adage goes, it's not what you say, it's how you say it. Form can be just as important as content.
Mathematics is a model of reality.
It can be "true" based upon the premises.
But reality...its premises are less reliable.
Politics makes things even murkier.
So....
Facts in politics are just opinions that are really popular.
One shouldn't treat them as gospel truth.
Some things that have been treated as facts....
- Sarah Palin said she could see Russian from her house.
- Al Gore said he invented the internet.
- Obama was a constitutional law professor.
- GW Bush said "Mission accomplished".
- Trump committed treason.
- Snowden committed treason.
Heyo
Veteran Member
... and some have alternative facts.
MNoBody
Well-Known Member
a fact is information, data, and is also art, ....it is in fact art, or art-in-fact, and becomes an artifact, or a meme [image] as it solidifies from the abstract and becomes a more tangible thing which people can handle and utilize [thinging].
just as a hammer is an artifact, and in fact it has many uses,
it is both a tool [utilitarian] and art[aesthetic]
it can be used destructively or it may be used constructively....
aren't all facts essentially the same?
it really depends on how such things are used,
but regardless they still exist as a tangible thing [once they are made] subject to interpretive use by whomever uses it....
hopefully they use them artfully, in a constructive manner, to mutually satisfactory conclusions
just as a hammer is an artifact, and in fact it has many uses,
it is both a tool [utilitarian] and art[aesthetic]
it can be used destructively or it may be used constructively....
aren't all facts essentially the same?
it really depends on how such things are used,
but regardless they still exist as a tangible thing [once they are made] subject to interpretive use by whomever uses it....
hopefully they use them artfully, in a constructive manner, to mutually satisfactory conclusions