Secret Chief
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What's his homophobia got to do with fascism?
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Fascism - Why...
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Especially since even two months before the 2020 election he repeatedly said that the only way he could lose it would be if there was "election fraud". Now, there's tens of millions of Americans that are so utterly gullible so as to believe it, and a large part of why is because of the likes of Fox, Breitbart, and some other "news" outlets.
Friend of Mara
Active Member
Actually homophobia and fascism do go hand in hand. I don't think we've ever seen one without the other.
I am not understanding something:
the problem here is Trump only, or DeSantis is a problem, as well?
I mean...who said that Trump will be the 2024 candidate?
Soandso
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Trump literally went on stage and said he was a nationalist
Trump: 'I'm a nationalist'
“You know what I am? I’m a nationalist. OK? I’m a nationalist," the president said.
As for whether or not he's racist, he has denied being a racist unlike the nationalist thing, but he kind of has a long history of consistently doing and saying racist things. Folks can decide for themselves based on his actions
Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2020
Trump has repeatedly claimed he’s “the least racist person.” The record suggests otherwise.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
I appreciate the point, but the former is not a part of the definition of the latter (similarly antisemitism I would guess).
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
It was a resurrection and it has been adjudicated as such. Just because the people who carried it out were morons, doesn't mean it wasn't an insurrection. Members of Congress were lucky in that they managed to escape moments before these fools entered the building, that's after being trapped and holed up in the Senate chamber while the angry mob attempted to break the door down. Oh, and the ones outside were chanting "Hang Mike Pence" and erecting gallows. Just another day in the park, eh?
There were further plans by the way, involving fake electors and military intervention, if the above wasn't enough for you. Storming the Capitol to stop the peaceful transfer of power was just the start. Luckily, Mike Pence didn't roll over for the insurrectionists and the transfer occurred in the wee hours of morning.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
You've just described Trump. You left out his gold toilets though.
They claim to be for peace, while they want Ukrainians to keep fighting in that war, so Putin can be defeated: and they die, die, die.
The most incoherent, contradictory party in world history.
Wait, wait, how did Gabbard call them? A party driven by an elitist cabal of warmongers.
Best definition ever.
But Trump has also denied having sex with women, (Stormy Daniels, Karen McDougal, E. Jean Carroll.)
I detest hypocrisy and phoniness.You've just described Trump. You left out his gold toilets though.
At least Republicans admit they side with the financial élites.
Democrats want to have the cake and eat it,
They idolize Soros and still say they side with commoners.
Utterly unbearable, this hypocrisy.
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SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Trump's hypocrisy doesn't upset you though?I detest hypocrisy and phoniness.
At least Republicans admit they side with the financial élites.
Democrats want to have the cake and eat it,
They idolize Soros and still say they side with commoners.
Utterly disgusting, this hypocrisy.
I've yet to meet anyone calling themselves a Democrat who "idolizes Soros."
MAGA supporters appear to be the only ones who worship and idolize a particular politician as some sort of God.
One question: when Gabbard said she has left the Democratic Party because it's a party driven by an elitist cabal of warmongers,
who do you think she was referring to?
To Morgan Le Fay?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
I have no idea what she believes about anything.One question: when Gabbard said she has left the Democratic Party because it's a party driven by an elitist cabal of warmongers,
who do you think she was referring to?
To Morgan Le Fay?
Nor does this answer my question.
Soandso
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Cognitive dissonance
The reason it was not a false dichotomy, is because you seemed to be making the claim that the reason people got their jobs back after the pandemic is due to the programs Biden introduced. I find that claim to be absurd, so I responded with a question designed to show you the absurdity of your claim.
Trump was never a dictator. And the fact that his supporters wanted him to win even though he lost, that is no different than all the other politicians who lost even though their supporters wanted them to win.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
I guess that explains the cricket sounds I'm hearing.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Who said he was? He's a wanna be dictator.
They did a whole lot more than "wanted him to win."
So did Trump himself. Hence all the indictments.
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People always want the candidate they support to win. People feel passionately about their preferred candidate, and the campaign ramps up that passion, that is what political campaigns do. People invest their heart and soul into getting their person elected.
But usally when they don't win, the candidate accepts defeat. If you have ever watched the people listening to a concession speech you will see they cry, they scream, they rend their garments etc. But eventually they get over it and move on.
But that didn't happen, what happened is Trump kept stirring up the passion by telling them lies. That is the difference.
You seemed to suggest he was by saying his supporters wanted a dictator which is why they voted for him
No they did not; they were disappointed just like everyone else when they see their candidate lose.