Fascism - Why...

[Evangelicalhumanist]

As I said countless times before, they disrupted the process. As far as calls to hang Mike Pence, who knows what that meant? Let's say for sake of discussion, they actually wanted to hang the Vice President; Killing the Vice President does not keep the President in power; so...... what's your point here?

My point was to show that you would continue to be as obtuse as possible. And I did.

I'm done with this. I can only talk to brick walls for so long...

 

[ImmortalFlame]

As far as calls to hang Mike Pence, who knows what that meant?

Are you actually serious?

 

[Kfox]

They successfully broke through the police barriers, and broke into to capital, they made their way to the Senate chamber. All they would have had to do was hold out for a few more hours and it would have been too late.

Too late for what? Too late to leave before getting arrested? Before getting arrested by the cops who will be actually armed with something more than just Zip ties? Hardly a plan to take over the country.

Why did they break into the capital if it was not to prevent the procedure?

Don't tell me they were there to file a complaint.
Don't tell me they were part of a peaceful protest.
Don't tell me they were tourists just looking around.

Again; the goal was to DISRUPT the procedure, not to prevent it. Once they accomplished their goal, they left allowing the procedure to continue

 

[Kfox]

They were expecting him to join them had they succeeded. That is how insurrections work.
Trump should have called the forces out to stop them breaking in but he chose not to. The standing security had no chance.

Why on Earth would a standing President call the forces on a bunch of criminals? Don't cha think there are other people hired to do such things? Again; there was no plan in place, they just acted on how they felt at the moment. The Country was never in danger, quit trying to make this out to be something it was not.

 

[Kfox]

My point was to show that you would continue to be as obtuse as possible. And I did.

I'm done with this. I can only talk to brick walls for so long...

The only thing you showed was how flimsy your claims were and how easily they folded when pressed for logical answers. Admit it`; this was no serious attempt to take over the country, the constitution was never in any danger, and you are making this out to be more than it actually was.

 

[Kfox]

Are you actually serious?

Context my friend! Context. That wasn't really much of an answer; that was a prelude to my own question. Care to answer my question?

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Why on Earth would a standing President call the forces on a bunch of criminals? Don't cha think there are other people hired to do such things? Again; there was no plan in place, they just acted on how they felt at the moment. The Country was never in danger, quit trying to make this out to be something it was not.

It is yourself who is defending the indefensible.
Both they and Trump knew exactly what they were doing when he excited them to do what they did

We all saw it take place as it happened. There is no room for any misunderstanding about it at all.

Your support paid or not is no doubt instigated by the same Trump team.

 

[fantome profane]

Too late for what? Too late to leave before getting arrested? Before getting arrested by the cops who will be actually armed with something more than just Zip ties? Hardly a plan to take over the country.

Too late to complete the official proceedings. (According to the Electoral Count act of 1887)

Again; the goal was to DISRUPT the procedure, not to prevent it. Once they accomplished their goal, they left allowing the procedure to continue

Why? Why did they want to disrupt the procedure? What was the point?

 

[Kfox]

It is yourself who is defending the indefensible.
Both they and Trump knew exactly what they were doing when he excited them to do what they did

We all saw it take place as it happened. There is no room for any misunderstanding about it at all.

Your support paid or not is no doubt instigated by the same Trump team.

I'm not supporting anything, I'm simply pointing out the flaws in your illogical claims.

 

[Kfox]

Too late to complete the official proceedings. (According to the Electoral Count act of 1887)

So what would have happened had they held out for a couple hours more? The proceedings would have just been completed the next day!

Why? Why did they want to disrupt the procedure? What was the point?

They were angry and emotional. When you are acting on anger and emotion, it doesn't have to make sense.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I'm not supporting anything, I'm simply pointing out the flaws in your illogical claims.

I have just stated what we all witnessed and court findings, there is nothing illogical in that. It is factual.

 

[fantome profane]

So what would have happened had they held out for a couple hours more? The proceedings would have just been completed the next day!

No, The proceedings could not have been completed the next day. Not according to the Electoral act. I don't know what would have happened. I don't think anybody knows what would have happened. But I don't think it would have been good.

They were angry and emotional. When you are acting on anger and emotion, it doesn't have to make sense.

When you posted this were you acting on anger and emotion? Because this post doesn't make any sense.

No, this was a planned insurrection. We have evidence of them planning it. People have been convicted and sentenced to long prison terms just for planning this insurrection.

I'm not supporting anything, I'm simply pointing out the flaws in your illogical claims.

What you are doing is embarrassing yourself and displaying your ignorance.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I'm not supporting anything, I'm simply pointing out the flaws in your illogical claims.

I have just stated what we all witnessed and court findings, there is nothing illogical in that. It is factual.

 

[metis]

But elections do matter. Don't assume that because they disagreed with that particular election, therefore they believe elections don't matter

You continue to miss the point, and the only question I have is whether you're intentionally being evasive or are you quite naive-- or both? Anyone paying attention to the tremendous amount of information now out well knows that it Trump & Co had succeeded in negating the results in the election that our exercise in democracy would be over.

Study & THINK

 

[SkepticThinker]

Install Trump? Trump was still President during that time; they wanted him to remain President.

They were just trying to disrupt the process, that's why after they accomplished their goal, they left on their own. Quit making it out to be more than it was.

They did not leave on their own. They only left after Trump was finally convinced by his family and the people around him to send out a Tweet asking them to leave.

Do you even read other peoples' posts? The news?

 

[Kfox]

No, The proceedings could not have been completed the next day. Not according to the Electoral act. I don't know what would have happened. I don't think anybody knows what would have happened. But I don't think it would have been good.

None of this was good! But trust me; it would not have prevented Biden from becoming President.

When you posted this were you acting on anger and emotion? Because this post doesn't make any sense.

No, this was a planned insurrection. We have evidence of them planning it. People have been convicted and sentenced to long prison terms just for planning this insurrection.

I never said it was not a planned insurrection of course it was! An insurrection is just an uprising. I just said it was not a planned attempt to replace our republic with a dictatorship.

 

[SkepticThinker]

As I said countless times before, they disrupted the process. As far as calls to hang Mike Pence, who knows what that meant? Let's say for sake of discussion, they actually wanted to hang the Vice President; Killing the Vice President does not keep the President in power; so...... what's your point here?

Who knows what that meant?

Sorry, but you've just convinced me that you are not an honest interlocuter.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Disrupt the procedure? Or PREVENT the procedure. Disruption accomplishes nothing because once the disruption is over, the procedure continues. Preventing the procedure, that's a different story. So; did they attempt to disrupt? Or prevent.

Stop it.

They wanted to STOP the procedure from happening. And almost did.

 

[SkepticThinker]

They occupied the capital. What more would they need to do?

And forced out all the Senators.
Mike Pence refused to completely leave though he initially left the building with the crowd on his heels.

 

[SkepticThinker]

They would have to defeat any police force that would oppose them, as well as defeat all 3 branches of the US Military, or get the military to join their side. What steps did they take to accomplish this?

You mean the police force that they beat with makeshift weapons and sprayed with bear spray?