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Fascism - Why...

We Never Know

No Slack
Based on science. Guess you didn't google it.
Its not my job to support your claims. That's your job.

Like I supported mine.

According to science no one is born gay, there is no gay gene.



 

Friend of Mara

Active Member
Its not my job to support your claims. That's your job.

Like I supported mine.
No you did not. There is no strait gene. There is no gay gene. The current theory on how sexuality is presented is not by a purely gentic representation of phenotypes. Much like a whole host of other human conditions and experiences are not linked to direct genes either even well after we have mapped the whole genome.

I didn't provide evidence because all three of the links you provided support my argument. Because you didn't read any of them except the title. Thank you for providing me three wonderful links even though the middle one is locked behind a paywall so neither of us can see it. Here is a copy paste from the third one.

Moreover, the researchers found that sexuality is polygenic — meaning hundreds or even thousands of genes make tiny contributions to the trait. That pattern is similar to other heritable (but complex) characteristics like height or a proclivity toward trying new things. (Things like red/green colorblindness, freckles and dimples can be traced back to single genes).
 

We Never Know

No Slack
No you did not. There is no strait gene. There is no gay gene. The current theory on how sexuality is presented is not by a purely gentic representation of phenotypes. Much like a whole host of other human conditions and experiences are not linked to direct genes either even well after we have mapped the whole genome.

I didn't provide evidence because all three of the links you provided support my argument. Because you didn't read any of them except the title. Thank you for providing me three wonderful links even though the middle one is locked behind a paywall so neither of us can see it. Here is a copy paste from the third one.

Moreover, the researchers found that sexuality is polygenic — meaning hundreds or even thousands of genes make tiny contributions to the trait. That pattern is similar to other heritable (but complex) characteristics like height or a proclivity toward trying new things. (Things like red/green colorblindness, freckles and dimples can be traced back to single genes).
"There is no gay gene"

Exactly! That's what my links supported. Thanks for admitting it.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
There is no gay gene, yes or no?
There is no hight gene, there is no hair colour gene, no skin colour gene. Even sex is determined by a chromosome, not a single gene.

That does not mean these things are not genetic or that they don’t have a genetic component. These things are the result of a myriad of different genes interacting with the environment and with each other.


Very few human traits ”have a gene”.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
Just gonna copy paste myself from earlier.

The belief in a natural hierarchy usually dictates it. "Natural Hierarchy" is just fancy spoken shorthand for a blended mix of sexism, antisemitism, racism and homophobia.
Your definition of Hierarchy is wrong; Hierarchy exists in many structures; families where the older child has more responsibility than the younger, nearly every business that has line workers, trainers, leads, managers, supervisors, etc; these are Hierarchy and they have nothing to do with sexism, racism, and all the other stuff you mentioned.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
Sure. If that something is a person's existence. Homophobes don't just "disagree" with homosexuality they disagree with a whole group of people who exist as they are.
Perhaps your definition, but for most people, all that is required to be called homophobe is to disagree with homosexuality.
BTW what does it mean to disagree with a group of people who exist as they are?
 
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fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Perhaps your definition, but for most people, all that is required to be called homophobe is to disagree with homosexuality.
I don’t know what you mean by disagree. Seems like a vague term in this context.

I mean you don’t have to be gay, you don’t have to participate. You can tell someone of the same gender that you are not interested, that is all fine.

But if judge someone, if you think their sexual expression is less valid than yours or should not be allowed, then I am pretty comfortable calling a person like that a bigot.
 

Friend of Mara

Active Member
Your definition of Hierarchy is wrong; Hierarchy exists in many structures; families where the older child has more responsibility than the younger, nearly every business that has line workers, trainers, leads, managers, supervisors, etc; these are Hierarchy and they have nothing to do with sexism, racism, and all the other stuff you mentioned.
Except it is in every single instance of fascism we have ever seen. There are "undesirables" in casts that are down a rung in these societies and the actions of a fascist are justified in their own minds because anything in the name of upholding the
Perhaps your definition, but for most people, all that is required to be called homophobe is to disagree with homosexuality.
BTW what does it mean to disagree with a group of people who exist as they are?
What does it mean to disagree with homosexuality in this case that wouldn't lead to homophobia in your mind? A quiet voiceless distain in their mind while the gays are still allowed to enjoy equal rights with no harassments?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Atheists are far more likely to believe the truth because they follow the evidence. The same cannot be said about Christians. And you do not seem to understand the Christian faith yourself. There is no punishment for the guilty in Christian heaven. It only depends upon people believing the resurrection myth. The Christian God is not a moral God.
How can you be sure that nobody cheated on that election day?
Not even republicans did?
;)
 
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