Parenthetically
what a great name for gentile gefilte fish!
-
Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:- Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
- Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
- Access to private conversations with other members.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!
Ferguson!
- Thread starter Sunstone
- Start date
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
To me it doesn't even matter if he rushed the cop. It's still a cop using lethal force against an unarmed man. Police need to be held at a higher standard than that. If the standard for killing unarmed people is to simply say you feared for your life because they rushed you, that's basically legalized street executions. It's the same as them being able to say "stop resisting" while five cops are beating your face into ground. If that's all it takes to justify their actions then it's legalized public beatings and executions. And if you manage to survive you get a ticket to prison for bleeding on their uniform.
We eat sincere gefilte fish in our house!
(It's a Chinese soup thing.)
Alceste
Vagabond
Taking the witness accounts together with the autopsy report, it seems to me Wilson quite possibly has very bad aim. If the one identified witness who isn't brown's buddy and tweeted the event as it happened is correct, Wilson's first two shots missed. The next several shots in rapid succession mostly hit Brown's arm, in a line towards his head, and would probably have had to be prior to the fatal wound, which entered the top of Brown's head, indicating he was probably already down or falling when those final shots to the head were fired. It's noteworthy that there was no GSR and no sign of a struggle, so he could not have been close to the shooter, and if there was a physical altercation with the officer as some have suggested, it was a very minor one.
All speculation at this point of course. From my perspective, police should not be gunning people down in the street under any circumstances short of stopping one of those maniac killing sprees, so these details are not particularly relevant to my position on this issue.Nor are details regarding the personal character of the victim.
Alceste
Vagabond
Just to recap, Apex offered a radio show caller as evidence, you replied that only people who care about the evidence would read it (I had already read it), then I pointed out that it's the second hand account of a friend of the accused. The name for that is hearsay. Do you disagree?
Not seeing any disingenuous behaviour on my part, but I am definitely seeing it.
Yes, you misrepresent my statement, instead providing your own self-serving inference.
I spoke to the broader issue that we don't have "all" the evidence.
You seek to make it about a singular piece of evidence you don't like.
You're being dishonest.
Last edited:
Alceste
Vagabond
Cops are almost never prosecuted or even charged for killing people while on duty. I'd love to see it go through the right avenues, but I have very little confidence that it will.
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
Josie's account provides another perspective. No one is obligated to agree with it, but, when wondering how such an event could unfold, I think it's important to try to understand another offered perspective.
Personal details on the character of the victim are absolutely important, in my opinion. I opine that Brown had a measure of control over this situation as well. If Josie's account is accurate, Brown could have opted to get out of the freaking road when asked to, by law enforcement.
All speculation, of course. I agree.
Alceste
Vagabond
Whatever Rev. Your tedious penchant for accusing me of lying and misrepresentation every time I better you in a debate fair and square is the entire reason I kept you on ignore for so long. You're making me regret taking you off now.
Alceste
Vagabond
Sorry, but who is Josie?
You're a legend in your own mind.
Please, please put me on ignore, & go afflict someone else.
My apologies to whomever that is.
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
Edit: You know, Josie from radio call?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
If you're not paying attention to what's going on, then you probably shouldn't be weighing in.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
So, you have made your mind up ?.
Buttercup
Veteran Member
My thoughts as well. I've spent a good amount of time today researching the law regarding use of deadly force by a police officer and there are so many semantic variances that could be used in his defense that I'd be very surprised if Wilson is even charged with a crime. It's all about his perception of a life threatening situation regardless if there was a weapon involved. We'll see. It's depressing, nonetheless.
CynthiaCypher
Well-Known Member
Is she supposed to be on a first name basis with a radio caller?
Aye, so many have their mind made up with minimal evidence based upon their personal
views about how cops should respond, but there's a legal environment which is different.
No matter what happens to Wilson, many people will be furious at the perceived injustice.
Last edited:
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
I suppose not.
Alceste
Vagabond
Ah yes, I saw no reason to take her account into consideration, since she wasn't there and she is a personal friend of the accused.
FYI, I make allowances for the likely inaccuracy of Brown's friend's testimony too, but at least he was there.
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
That's fine.
The point made was that her account closely aligns to Wilson's. If you care to understand his perspective, this is, thus far, the closest insight into what Wilson claims happened.
I'm interested in another perspective, as he's accused by the community of murder. To each their own.