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Ferguson!

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
Right....just as sexism only comes from males (hence, "patriarchy" is the reason for all
societal ills)....religious bigotry only comes from Xians....lookism only comes from beautiful
people....only Americans are guilty of nationalism.....only whites trafficed in slaves.....
...only...you get the picture. It seems you pick a side, sanctify it, & demonize the other.
The real world is not so black & white (excuse pun).

No. Black people can be racist against other people of color and other black people when they help to uphold the institutions that oppress them. Same with women, women are sexist against other women when they oppressed other women.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No. Black people can be racist against other people of color and other black people when they help to uphold the institutions that oppress them. Same with women, women are sexist against other women when they oppressed other women.
What kind of stuff do you read to be led in this direction?
I'm beginning to think we're being Poed here.
 

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
Are black people systematically oppressing white people? No. The institutional and systemic oppression of a people on the basis of race is the only racism.

There, now it is a correct thought.

Nope. Wrong. It's also vaguely racist to say that one group can't be racist towards another group.
 

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
What kind of stuff do you read to be led in this direction?
I'm beginning to think we're being Poed here.

Racism as systemic oppression that adversely affects people of color is the classic definition. Racism isn't just about being prejudice and bigoted, it is about holding one race superior and above all others to the detriment of all other races.
 

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
Are black people systematically oppressing white people? No. The institutional and systemic oppression of a people on the basis of race is the only racism.

There, now it is a correct thought.

You've created your own definition of racism.

Racism is prejudice towards race which may or may not be projected through a person's actions.
 

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
You've created your own definition of racism.

Racism is prejudice towards race which may or may not be projected through a person's actions.

No. Racial prejudice and racial bigotry is different from racism. When you add power into the equation then racial prejudice become racism.
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
Looks like Webster's agree with me: 1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

Not only does it not agree with your premise, it outright neglects to mention that it is purely institutional---which is what you have been arguing. Also, notice how it fails to mention a white-on-color focus, another amendment to your institutional-centric premise. Why does it fail to mention such ? Because racism in its rudimentary sense is socio-cultural, not a recent product created by "the Man".
 

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
Looks like Webster's agree with me: 1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

If you accept this definition, you're contradicting yourself.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
No. Racial prejudice and racial bigotry is different from racism. When you add power into the equation then racial prejudice become racism.

I don't believe this.

Bigotry is when people make unpleasant assumptions about other people based on a characteristic. Doesn't matter why. Black people bigot white people, gay people bigot straight people, female people bigot male people, religious people bigot nonreligious people.,..

Bigotry is bigotry, and black people are quite capable of it.

Tom
 

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
You're agreeing to that which doesn't support your own argument. Your definition and Webster's do not align.

Yes it does. What does it say? A belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

That belief is almost ubiquitous among white people and people of color, racism is the institutionalization of that belief. Racism is that belief put into practice.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
I want to put in a good word for police officers in general. What a hell of a job they have and they are only human beings. I don't know how many of their critics are willing to rush in to help a citizen from an armed thug.

They are human and not perfect and stress can get to them and they might overreact sometimes. Police departments and courts are there to investigate and deal with those situations. They may need psychiatric services like military veterans.

All in all, our police officers are basically good people and our respect for them should be as those who go into harms way in military service.

Here's to our nation's police :clap2:
 
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Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
That belief is almost ubiquitous among white people and people of color, racism is the institutionalization of that belief. Racism is that belief put into practice.

:facepalm: ... I give up.
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