FETI: Found Extra Terrestrial Intelligence.

[John D. Brey]

Found. Extra Terrestrial Intelligence.




John

 

[SalixIncendium]

What was it you were wanting to debate?

And this has what to do with religion?

 

[HonestJoe]

I assume it is a "Lost and Found" thread. I'm always putting my Extra Terrestrial Intelligence down somewhere and forgetting about it. I'm thinking of getting on of those Airtag things for it. I do hope the owner of this one can be tracked down.

 

[Stevicus]

Found. Extra Terrestrial Intelligence.




John

It's one of my favorite albums:

But it's more in the realm of "sci fi." To date, there has not been any extraterrestrial intelligence found, and some people may wonder how much terrestrial intelligence has been found.

 

[Left Coast]

I have a hard enough time finding terrestrial intelligence, extra is above my pay grade.

 

[John D. Brey]

What was it you were wanting to debate? . . . And this has what to do with religion?

SETI is supposed to be a scientific endeavor. And yet properly understood, the scientific-method divulges the undeniable existence of not only extra terrestrial intelligence, but more profoundly, a trans-biological form of life here on planet earth (and almost surely on any other planet that supports biological life). There's a fundamentally religious component to this truism since although it's the scientific-method that discloses the existence of this extra-terrestrial intelligence/trans-biological life-form, the nature of the form of extra-terrestrial intelligent life disclosed by the scientific-method has undeniably religious connotations in that we could say the disclosure of this extra-terrestrial intelligence ---the way it's disclosed ----suggests it's the genesis of the arrival of the cultural predilection otherwise known as "religion"; religion being the manner in which primitive peoples engaged, signified, interacted with, an alien life-form way beyond the ken of their simple minds.



John

 

[John D. Brey]

I assume it is a "Lost and Found" thread. I'm always putting my Extra Terrestrial Intelligence down somewhere and forgetting about it. . . .

Right. Instead of being positively giddy about the finding and existence of this extra-terrestrial trans-biological life-form most people allow it to lie hidden beneath a dusty Gideon shell. If they knew what it is they could stomp on it or burn it before it gestates and procreates by parasiting the human mind.

How many nights has an unsuspecting, forelorn, fellow traveler, come back from a night of drinking their troubles away only to lie down on their hotel bed and in a moment of weakness open up the gold-leafed Pandora's box on the nightstand unaware that their mind is about to be parasited by alien forces beyond the ken of their human understanding?

How positively sad that the cleaning girls regularly use clorox bleach to kill the semen on the sheets and then spray for bed bugs but never once open the drawer on the night stand to use a flamethrower on the greatest danger any patron could ever imagine.



John

 

[John D. Brey]

But it's more in the realm of "sci fi." To date, there has not been any extraterrestrial intelligence found, and some people may wonder how much terrestrial intelligence has been found.

Your last statement is a positively lexicographical example of irony since it's only by means of the lack of terrestrial intelligence that the extra-terrestrial is allowed to run rampant raping and pillaging minds and killing the human spirit all the while humans stand starring dumbly at one another scratching their luke-warm noggins about what's going on.



John

 

[Secret Chief]

- Alien life in Universe: Scientists say finding it is 'only a matter of time'

 

[John D. Brey]

I have a hard enough time finding terrestrial intelligence, extra is above my pay grade.

This is a truly thoughtful statement that applies to all of us to one degree or another since once we realize a trans-biological extra-terrestrial intelligent life-form has parasited our brain our only means of limiting its use of our brain is to begin to shut down areas of thought every time we find it's reached that enclave of our brain. Stupidity, and unknowing, is often the outward sign of pureness of thought and a willingness to fight the alien within the only way we know how.



John

 

[Left Coast]

This is a truly thoughtful statement that applies to all of us to one degree or another since once we realize a trans-biological extra-terrestrial intelligent life-form has parasited our brain our only means of limiting its use of our brain is to begin to shut down areas of thought every time we find it's reached that enclave of our brain.

Stupidity, and unknowing, is often the outward sign of pureness of thought and a willingness to fight the alien within the only way we know how.

John

Are you Trump's campaign manager?

 

[Stevicus]

Your last statement is a positively lexicographical example of irony since it's only by means of the lack of terrestrial intelligence that the extra-terrestrial is allowed to run rampant raping and pillaging minds and killing the human spirit all the while humans stand starring dumbly at one another scratching their luke-warm noggins about what's going on.



John

Well, if we're being infiltrated by extra-terrestrials, then they're doing a heck of a good job impersonating humans. I mean that as a sincere compliment, to any extra-terrestrials who may be reading this.

If there's some alien empire who wants to take over the Earth, my first reaction would be: Why would they want Earth?

On the other hand, considering the job our human governments have done, perhaps an alien-controlled government might do better. Or it could be worse, but then, so could human governments.

But in the final analysis, at this point, I find that there's much more to fear from humans than from extra-terrestrials. At least at present. That may change if circumstances change.

 

[John D. Brey]

Well, if we're being infiltrated by extra-terrestrials, then they're doing a heck of a good job impersonating humans. I mean that as a sincere compliment, to any extra-terrestrials who may be reading this.

There's a fundamental difference between impersonation versus parasitism. True enough, parasitism often employs impersonation as a technique.

If there's some alien empire who wants to take over the Earth, my first reaction would be: Why would they want Earth?

Who says they're only on earth. Odds are extremely high that the trans-biological life-form parasiting humans is doing the same thing anywhere biological life exists.

But in the final analysis, at this point, I find that there's much more to fear from humans than from extra-terrestrials.

Viz a viz my statement to Left Coast, I choose to read the nature of your statement above, and the fact it suggests you've read almost nothing in this thread (and perhaps little elsewhere), as a sign of your purity and virtue.




John

 

[ChristineM]

Found. Extra Terrestrial Intelligence.




John

Do you have a link to this?

 

[Debater Slayer]

Do you have a link to this?

The link returns a 404 error. It's an extraterrestrial server.

 

[John D. Brey]

Do you have a link to this?

I like to think I'm one of the few, the proud, who've severed the link.



John

 

[ChristineM]

I'm one of the few, the proud, who've severed the link.



John

Figures

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

I like to think I'm one of the few, the proud, who've severed the link.

I don't know just what link you have severed, but the most important one is the one that keeps one tethered to reality. Notions like truth, knowledge, correctness, fact, reality, and existence need to be based in experience (empiricism, correspondence theory of truth) and not just imagination. Sever that link and one aimlessly floats away from reality like a helium balloon where the string came untied. Be careful what you allow yourself to believe.

 

[John D. Brey]

Figures

Secret Chief linked to the article that led to this thread in message #9. The article at the link implies it's only a matter of time before "alien life" is found in the universe.

That time has come:

Suppose for the sake of the argument that proves what's posited above, humans were able to build and man an interstellar craft that could travel fast enough to reach some moon or planet that the Web Space Telescope implied might have life. Imagine that when men reached the destination they find some kind of primitive humanoids. When they eventually gain enough trust of the humanoid aliens to be allowed into their camp, and are then introduced to their leader/priest, to their utter amazement he's wearing scarification, stigmata, so like the marks of Christ on the cross, holes in his hands, feet, scarification around his head, even a scar on his right side (and around his male-organ), that the astronauts begin to wonder if some kind of twisted game is being played on them?

Believe it or not that's already happened.

World class historians have pointed out that when Western European explorers were first able to build ships able to cross the great and untraversable space separating the old world from the new they encountered strange alien aboriginal peoples in South and Central America, and or Australia, for instance. And when they did, they experienced the very disorientation narrated above. These primitive peoples had scars, rituals, and practices, that were so indicative of the scarification found in the Bible (many of the primitives wore the same sacerdotal scar on the so-called tree of life that's worn by Jews living on the other side of the planet) that the explorers assumed some demonic ruse was in play. Many of these alien peoples practiced rituals so similar to the ones practiced by the Holy See, and this on the other side of the sea, that these travelers to the new world began to supposed (and this is document by Will Durant and dozens of other world-class historian) that they were being played by great demonic forces who were slightly distorting the signs and rituals they'd grown up with so that these aliens on the other side of the planet were mimicking their own signs, rituals, and practices in manners that were undeniable and violently disturbing.

If space travelers crossing the Rubicon of the formerly untraversable space separating this planet from the next, encounter primitive humanoid personages who have scarred their male-organ in a circumspect way, and clearly do so as a religious symbol of something universal, then presumably, whatever this sign found in two completely unconnected realms signifies, would needs-be indeed universal.

Believe it or not that's already happened.

As educated historians can tell the uneducated, peoples segregated on land masses that have never had contact with the peoples of Asia or Western Europe, not only practice circumcision as a religious sign, but they also worship images, symbols, and ritualized concepts, so indicative of Judaism and Christianity, that some of the Western explorers who first encountered them were so disturbed by this unholy anomally that they tried exterminating the demons.

Imagine if space traverlers found primitive humanoids on a far away planet and when they were allowed into the holy sactum of the tribe they found a clearly religious artifact of an ugly, mangle, bloodied, ET, staring down at them from a wooden rod he's nailed to?

It's already happened. And these trans-biological aliens who exist throughout the universe have allready parasited all viable brain tissue of any reasonably sentient humanoid creature such that only by means of insight and profound intellectual journeying of truly biblical proportions does any man, do any men, stand able to exterminate the parasites in their own mind before they begin the arduous and life-threatening journey, the seemingly impossible task, of convincing their alien-infected peers of the grave danger taking place within the brain-tissue of the very organ they assume is the genesis of only their own thoughts and desires.



Kassandra

 

[ChristineM]

Secret Chief linked to the article that led to this thread in message #9. The article at the link implies it's only a matter of time before "alien life" is found in the universe.

That time has come:

Suppose for the sake of the argument that proves what's posited above, humans were able to build and man an interstellar craft that could travel fast enough to reach some moon or planet that the Web Space Telescope implied might have life. Imagine that when men reached the destination they find some kind of primitive humanoids. When they eventually gain enough trust of the humanoid aliens to be allowed into their camp, and are then introduced to their leader/priest, to their utter amazement he's wearing scarification, stigmata, so like the marks of Christ on the cross, holes in his hands, feet, scarification around his head, even a scar on his right side (and around his male-organ), that the astronauts begin to wonder if some kind of twisted game is being played on them?

Believe it or not that's already happened.

World class historians have pointed out that when Western European explorers were first able to build ships able to cross the great and untraversable space separating the old world from the new they encountered strange alien aboriginal peoples in South and Central America, and or Australia, for instance. And when they did, they experienced the very disorientation narrated above. These primitive peoples had scars, rituals, and practices, that were so indicative of the scarification found in the Bible (many of the primitives wore the same sacerdotal scar on the so-called tree of life that's worn by Jews living on the other side of the planet) that the explorers assumed some demonic ruse was in play. Many of these alien peoples practiced rituals so similar to the ones practiced by the Holy See, and this on the other side of the sea, that these travelers to the new world began to supposed (and this is document by Will Durant and dozens of other world-class historian) that they were being played by great demonic forces who were slightly distorting the signs and rituals they'd grown up with so that these aliens on the other side of the planet were mimicking their own signs, rituals, and practices in manners that were undeniable and violently disturbing.

If space travelers crossing the Rubicon of the formerly untraversable space separating this planet from the next, encounter primitive humanoid personages who have scarred their male-organ in a circumspect way, and clearly do so as a religious symbol of something universal, then presumably, whatever this sign found in two completely unconnected realms signifies, would needs-be indeed universal.

Believe it or not that's already happened.

As educated historians can tell the uneducated, peoples segregated on land masses that have never had contact with the peoples of Asia or Western Europe, not only practice circumcision as a religious sign, but they also worship images, symbols, and ritualized concepts, so indicative of Judaism and Christianity, that some of the Western explorers who first encountered them were so disturbed by this unholy anomally that they tried exterminating the demons.

Imagine if space traverlers found primitive humanoids on a far away planet and when they were allowed into the holy sactum of the tribe they found a clearly religious artifact of an ugly, mangle, bloodied, ET, staring down at them from a wooden rod he's nailed to?

It's already happened. And these trans-biological aliens who exist throughout the universe have allready parasited all viable brain tissue of any reasonably sentient humanoid creature such that only by means of insight and profound intellectual journeying of truly biblical proportions does any man, do any men, stand able to exterminate the parasites in their own mind before they begin the arduous and life-threatening journey, the seemingly impossible task, of convincing their alien-infected peers of the grave danger taking place within the brain-tissue of the very organ they assume is the genesis of only their own thoughts and desires.



Kassandra

Do not FOUND then

If extraterrestrial aliens were found it would make serious big news