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Finding excuses to hate Muslims?

Theweirdtophat

Theweirdtophat

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YmirGF said:
It might be helpful if you provided even a short list of what you see as being greater dangers.
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Is there a short list? Believe me of goes farther and deeper than you can imagine. I could say the dangers, but would you believe me anyway?
 
Theweirdtophat

Theweirdtophat

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RRex said:
I will be perfectly honest - I find it very, VERY hard to like Muslims.

Why?

Their extremist elements are lobbing off heads and treating women very badly, and I do not hear much positive news coming from "non-violent Muslims" in condemning this behavior.

IMHO, "non-violent Muslims" are not trying hard enough to suppress and/or control these extremist elements.
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The funny thing is the bashers who scream the loudest, most of them never even met a Muslim before in their life.

But hey I guess they aren't doing anything about the terrorists, except they are out there fighting them but that doesn't count apparently.
 
Theweirdtophat

Theweirdtophat

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YmirGF said:
It would be edifying knowing where your levels of hysteria land. :)
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And yet you want all the information spoon fed to you.

But yeah i guess it is hysterical for bankers like rothschilds, rockefellers, and the groups like the cfr, u.n. bildebergs, andso forth who use money and influence to stir people up, even though this trick has been done before over and over and even some have admitted to conspiring against others in order to make what they call a better world.

Yeah, i think it's safe to say that corrupt people whose wealth power and influence makes the likes of bill gates, donald trump and other billionaires look like nothing is probably a much bigger threat than muslims. You have any idea how much wealth those guys have and know all the stuff they were involved? You have no idea and no idea how deep it goes. I promise you, muslims are not the threat here. Why not focus your attention on the people who manipulated you in the first place?
 
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RRex

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Theweirdtophat said:
The funny thing is the bashers who scream the loudest, most of them never even met a Muslim before in their life.

But hey I guess they aren't doing anything about the terrorists, except they are out there fighting them but that doesn't count apparently.
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Before I retired I worked with a "population" that was about 50% Muslim.

Any other BS jabs you want to take?
 
Theweirdtophat

Theweirdtophat

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RRex said:
Before I retired I worked with a "population" that was about 50% Muslim.

Any other BS jabs you want to take?
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Someone who makes bs should not tell others they are making bs jabs.

Did a lot of them harm you or did you have bad experiences? Is that justification for disliking and not trusting Muslims? I don't think so. I had lots of bad experiences with blacks and hispanics, but that didn't make me despise or not trust them. I was wise enough to know there's good and bad. There are good Muslims whether you want to admit or not. So, no, you have no excuse.

And what makes you think they aren't trying? Just because it's not reported on the news, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
 
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RRex

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Theweirdtophat said:
Someone who makes bs should not tell others they are making bs jabs.

Did a lot of them harm you or did you have bad experiences? Is that justification for disliking and not trusting Muslims? I don't think so. I had lots of bad experiences with blacks and hispanics, but that didn't make me despise or not trust them. I was wise enough to know there's good and bad. There are good Muslims whether you want to admit or not. So, no, you have no excuse.

And what makes you think they aren't trying? Just because it's not reported on the news, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Many of them were radicalized and nasty to me because I am a woman. They did not like taking directives from me and they took offense at the pettiest of comments.

They are some of the meanest people I've met in my life.
 
Theweirdtophat

Theweirdtophat

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RRex said:
Many of them were radicalized and nasty to me because I am a woman. They did not like taking directives from me and they took offense at the pettiest of comments.

They are some of the meanest people I've met in my life.
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I met mean blacks as well. I still am friends with some. They were nasty regardless anyway. Their religion didn't make them that way. They chose to go overboard with it.

If you really think hundreds of millions support radicalization than you have not known enough. Some nice people I met were also Muslims. I can see the good and bad in them.

Most religious groups will have it's good and bad apples anyway, except for some smaller and usually lesser known cults that are extremists and have cult-like behavior. They are much more dangerous than any of the Muslims. There's over a billion of them and hundreds of millions of them don't go around force converting everyone they see.
 
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RRex

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I don't broadly paint Muslims. I've detailed my experience, but I realize they're not all like that. @Smart_Guy is cool, so there you go.

I confess it is hard not to generalize based on my personal experience over 25 years of service to the government.
 
Theweirdtophat

Theweirdtophat

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I try not to worry so much but I feel there is a division plan going on, trying to get muslims and non muslims to hate each other. Trying to get out experience is usually the best way as opposed to just researching it.
 
Sakeenah

Sakeenah

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RRex said:
Many of them were radicalized and nasty to me because I am a woman. They did not like taking directives from me and they took offense at the pettiest of comments.

They are some of the meanest people I've met in my life.
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Hi,

I've met some really mean and hostile non muslims , but I'm not going to judge all non muslims based on my experiences.

It's easy to hate but it's far more difficult to actually make an effort to get to know people who might not share the same views.
 
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RRex

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Sakeenah said:
Hi,

I've met some really mean and hostile non muslims , but I'm not going to judge all non muslims based on my experiences.

It's easy to hate but it's far more difficult to actually make an effort to get to know people who might not share the same views.
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I am fallible. I have no other excuse.

Edit to add that you are right. When I was growing up Roman Catholic I met some very nasty Catholics - a priest, a brother, a CCD teacher, others.

Mea culpa.
 
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blue taylor

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Theweirdtophat said:
This is what I seriously don't get. I feel like some people are trying to justify hating Muslims As if that makes sense because you can't justify hatred anyway. People do everything from looking at the news, to pointing out verses in the Quran or looking at history as what some terrible Muslims did

First off, those verses were written quite a long time ago, some are taken out of context or not followed the same way and were written by multiple people anyway and the news is not justification because those terrorists make up less than 1% of all Muslims and not all Muslims believe in the same thing.

Another thing is they keep thinking all Muslims are the same because they read the Quran. What sense does that make? That's like saying all Christians are the same because they read the Bible. There's different version and some Christian interpret verses differently. Otherwise there probably wouldn't be multiple branches within Islam

People will look at history but the terrible Muslims that did that are no longer around and that harming the descendants doesn't make sense. Don't punish the descendants for what the ancestors did

And I guess Muslims don't say anything bad about terrorists...except that they do and some are actually fighting against them overseas but I guess that doesn't count right? I mean, I feel like I entered into a topsy turvey dimension here. What happened here? Do people not see what's in front of them or realize there are good Muslims as well as bad?

Every time I do realize there are good Muslims, I'm labeled as a "pro Muslim supporter" and they act as if just because I know there are good Muslims, that must mean I love everything in the Quran and love every Muslim, even the bad ones. For one thing, even though I'm not a Muslim and I am a Druid, and even though there are some things in the Quran I disagree with, I can actually see good things in it and I can see the good Muslims, unlike the others who seem to just watch the news and read two pages of the Quran and come to the conclusion that every Muslim is bad and is a terrorist and that the good Muslims but not only say that the Muslim terrorists are bad, but I guess they want the good Muslims to do something about it, as if they expect every Muslim to drop what they are doing, leave their families and defeat the terrorists.

And these bashers will claim they don't hate Muslims and that they hate the idea of Islam, even though they show distrust and dislike of Muslims...and whenever one bad Muslim does something they just say "Well that's the Muslim way," even after saying that they didn't hate every Muslim. What kind logic is this? Anyone notice this?

I'm just sick and tired of all this bashing because these people choose to revel in their ignorance instead of actually getting some experience and getting to know good Muslims, like I have.
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Are there any good Muslims?
 
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