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For the most part materialism is true

Massimo2002

Active Member
I haven't witnessed anything supernatural therefore I think until I die that materialism is true. But when I die I could be totally wrong and there could be something spiritual on the other side.
 

Eddi

Christianity, Taoism, and Humanism
Premium Member
You may have witnessed something that is supernatural but not recognised it as such

I used to be a materialist but now I don't really believe in matter although I believe the universe is best understood according to science

I am constantly experiencing a thing that could be called "supernatural" but I strongly dislike that term and I only use it so others can better understand me

But I think we are supposed to look at creation and think "That's matter!" and that studying it as though it's matter can lead to new scientific advances and to cool technologies
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I haven't witnessed anything supernatural therefore I think until I die that materialism is true. But when I die I could be totally wrong and there could be something spiritual on the other side.
If there was , don't you think you would know already by now? Plus the fact that people for thousands of years since the human race had started , nobody hasn't ever come up with anything substantial to this point, so it's pretty certain that the supernatural and all the things that go bump in the night are a result of our primal instincts and fears as a result of our evolutionary history.

Obviously that's the reality as it stands without question, but with one cavet by which the natural world is already so freaky and bizarre, why would you even want a fantastical made up supernatural component to it , and just stick with the natural mysteries just begging to be explored and even solved perhaps?
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
I haven't witnessed anything supernatural therefore I think until I die that materialism is true. But when I die I could be totally wrong and there could be something spiritual on the other side.
So that’s the dichotomy then? Material or supernatural? Nothing in between or beyond?
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
How can there be anything in-between ?
There are plenty of examples of things that are not material that are not supernatural. Thought, emotion, love, sensation, motivation, and consciousness are just a few examples. Some apply the term "metaphysics" to these.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Arguably, everything that isn't material is non-supernatural. There's no reason to assume that the non-material is not part of nature and the universe. The very idea of "supernatural" as if anything transcends nature and the universe is just weird to me. It's a very Abrahamic idea that was borne out of their theology that wanted to cleave the divine out of the universe to make a creator god external to nature and the universe.
 
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