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For Trump Supporters/Voters: Why Do You Support and/or Vote for Him?

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Well, to me it's obvious. He's extremely likable, even I like him on personality basis. But, 4-8 more years of that kind of policy and we'd be finished. Changes often take a bit to ripple downward through the economy, so it doesn't really surprise me. I mean ACA was passed in 2010 and it took about a good year or two after that for us to notice. But, anyway... I'm not playing when I say I think anything of the sort like that occurring again would be awful. Especially now with this pandemic, but I'd feel this way even without it. If anyone's proven he can fix a broken economy it's Trump. I could hate everything else about Trump and this would still be true.

I don't think he's the Obama is the worst President that ever ruled the USA on paper either, but worst in the last 50 years? Sure. Dunno, might be a hard tie between the Bush camp and him for me. (Not a fan of either and their NWO antics.)
People might not believe me but I liked Obama and Bill Clinton on terms of friendly and approachable behavior. I'm not sure if they were like that off camera though.

Obviously I hold a different opinion on their policymaking.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
My preference that we need to move in a more capitalist direction as opposed to a socialist direction. Those that want to 'do' are more in need than those that want to 'take'. Cuba, Soviet Union, etc. didn't go so well. A rising harbor level raises all ships.

Also the racial issue makes me side with the conservatives. Those that commit the most crimes and social ills can just blame others for the flaws in the system. No, with me. Self-responsibility for behavior should come first. Not blame and a 'poor me' mentality.

Trump is kind of joke but still the best choice.

Who was your favorite president before Trump as far as economic policies went?
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
This. Pretty much.

I had a part-time job working at a library (which I lost in a year or so post election; though right I'm glad I don't have it). Every two weeks I'd make about $300 which was fine living at home, but if something happened to my folks, that was it. This meant about $600 a month. Then Obamacare passed, and I got a Anthem Healthkeeper insurance. My insurance went from PPO Gold and on my parent's insurance, to the same price insurance (about $145, mostly paid by them unless I was making a ton of money) being HMO and Bronze. And then I looked at the high number I would need to pay to actually be covered by decent insurance (about $11k). I'd need to make it up I guess the assume that because I'm young and white, I'm automatically a high-powered businessperson and can pay into that easily. And then the Healthkeeper one was deemed no good or maybe it expired, because I was now told I needed to buy new insurance. The lowest insurance, unless I bought Obamacare was $400. **** you no, I'm not buying Obamacare. I'm not buying ANY health insurance then. I'm not going to the doctor anymore. Nor the dentist.
Then I spent significant time and energy figuring out how to get out of Obamacare. I finally found out that if my state had not expanded Medicare (it hadn't), I was not required to buy it, and could claim exemption. There was also a deal where if they rejected me for it (they didn't), or if it was a substantial financial burden, I could exempt.

If I had no insurance, under Obamacare's individual mandate, I'd be penalized, hit by a huge charge for not having insurance. Trump abolishing the mandate saved me 100%.

I'm not familiar with the current insurance plans in the U.S. Has Trump given you more options for insurance than Obama and/or other presidents did?
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Trump was the only one to be able to thrust a spear into the entrenched status quo and business as usual style of governing that imo was slowly eating away at our representative republic.
Could you elaborate a bit more? What specifically did he do?
 

Samantha Rinne

Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
You think this is the case in all countries where masks have been adopted as public policy?

I'm not sure what you are asking.

I can think of three countries that were making conservative inroads, that all of a sudden were getting locked up in quarantine for months. Italy, UK, and US. Italy, despite quarantine was rising in number of cases (proving or suggesting they don't work), and UK was dealing with much the same **** having finally managed to get Brexit to work suddenly all gets hit by COVID. It's funny how an island that should be completely insulated from the world if it chooses suddenly comes down with a worldwide pandemic. Anyway, for all three countries it's "Sit inside, shut up and accept your -h-o-u-s-e-a-r-r-e-s-t- quarantine for your safety. Also, we're gonna need you to wear these. Even though not all doctors agree that they work or are even safe for the public."

And a few Muslim countries are being "infected with Coronavirus". I can't imagine life has changed much except men now wear masks.

This is a Big Statism more than anything. But Big State tends to be cozy with extreme Marxism and Islam. These two are very strongly anti-Western in their values, and very authoritarian. One is a secular share-alike dictatorship and the other is an authoritarian theocracy. But for now, they are both allied against Western values. This is called the red-green bloc btw.

When this Coronavirus/BLM stuff went on, statues of Western heroes came down in not only the US but much of Europe. But new statues went up. Can you guess whose statues? Why, Marx and Lenin.
Lenin Statue Goes Up as Washington, Jefferson, and More Fall
 

Samantha Rinne

Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
I'm not familiar with the current insurance plans in the U.S. Has Trump given you more options for insurance than Obama and/or other presidents did?

Typical small picture thinking. I don't NEED Trump to make a new plan. My new plan is no plan.

I don't go to the doctor. I don't give these pricks my money. Especially now that all of them are using this "pandemic" as a weapon against him.

My option is that if I don't want insurance (I don't) or cannot afford insurance (I can't), I am not charged for not having it (what the hell type of tax is that?!? You're paying not to have something but to not have something).
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Please avoid argumentative or debate posts in this thread. As mentioned in the OP, it is exclusively for Trump supporters to post their opinions, not to be challenged or debated.

Thank you.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Please avoid argumentative or debate posts in this thread. As mentioned in the OP, it is exclusively for Trump supporters to post their opinions, not to be challenged or debated.

Thank you.
The point of the thread, I thought, was to try and understand why folks support Trump. I don't see how we can do this if we are not allowed to post questions.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
The point of the thread, I thought, was to try and understand why folks support Trump. I don't see how we can do this if we are not allowed to post questions.

Questions are fine as long as they are respectful and non-argumentative.
 

Samantha Rinne

Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
I didn't find it that argumentative.

As long as questions aren't like "Really? Why would you think such a stupid thing?" I'm not sure it's that big a deal.
 
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