expectation? then it isn't understood as a baby but an expectation? a potential?
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Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution and Abortion
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I am so shocked that in the US there is black/white vision on abortion.
In my country an abortion done at the 30th week is called first degree murder.
Why, in your opinion?
Yes: a baby is the thing they're awaiting that hasn't arrived yet.
In Italian, does someone who already has a university degree say that they "expect" their degree, or is this something that people only say when they don't have their degree yet.
then there is no baby. there is an expectation. even language betrays the obviousYES... "We're expecting a BABY"
1550s, "wait, defer action," from Latin expectare/exspectare "await, look out for; desire, hope, long for, anticipate; look for with anticipation," from ex- "thoroughly" (see ex-) + spectare "to look," frequentative of specere "to look at" (from PIE root *spek- "to observe").
The figurative sense of "anticipate, look forward to" developed in Latin and is attested in English from c. 1600. Also from c. 1600 as "regard as about to happen." Meaning "count upon (to do something), trust or rely on" is from 1630s. Used since 1817 as a euphemism for "be pregnant." In the sense "suppose, reckon, suspect," it is attested from 1640s but was regarded as a New England provincialism. Related: Expected; expecting.
In my language expect and wait are the same verb...so...it doesn't really matter.
Well, we do live in a modern age.
It's why we don't call an erupting volcano "Angry god" anymore.
We should avoid etymological arguments.
They rely upon muddying multiple definitions of words.
I only said such a view was "snowflakie".I wills tay with the original designation of "baby"
I call you far worse names...behind your back, of course.
(I'm sensitive & caring that way.)
you got an answer. change your belief system to show that a fetus is recognized in the bible. otherwise. you're in contrast to your basic teaching
With all due respect, this is a political thread. Not a religious one.
And I am debating as if I were an atheist.
In Italian, do you expect or wait for something that's already happened?
you're waiting for something that isn't present.
you definitely are an atheist if you associate matter as the creator of spirit, mind, consciousness. if so then matter is greater than spirit.
Whenever I speak of juridical matters, I am an atheist, yes.
Truth in love
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I was not talking about weight gain. A federal welfare system counts JR for need assessments before birth.
Ss for the Bible. Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
John 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
It’s quite clear that the biblical view is that life does not begin at birth.
All right. I have understood the difference.
But "i'm expecting you" didn't mean that you weren't there or weren't alive... I just couldn't see you at the moment.
Heyo
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With more information on a subject, any subject, the opinions usually get more nuanced. When you have only few information (this includes dismissing information contrary to your opinion), it is easy to have a black and white opinion.
But "i'm expecting you" didn't mean that you weren't there or weren't alive... I just couldn't see you at the moment.
the problem here is you don't know. you're believing
Heyo
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"I'm expecting you" to turn into a rational, liberal, secular humanist. Does that mean you already are, we just don't see it yet?But "i'm expecting you" didn't mean that you weren't there or weren't alive... I just couldn't see you at the moment.