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Fox News
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PoetPhilosopher
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Yes.
Secret Chief
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Next question.
Fox is libertarian?
Huh.
I'd imagine they don't deny the accusation cuz it's an uncommon one.
Is it like NPR's not denying being a Marxist propaganda outlet.
Denials aren't something I hear from any news source.
Come to think of it....
You've never denied being a lady pro wrestler from Tibet.
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
They all want to imitate Fox. It's undisputed who has the most viewership, so it's not surprising to see it all being boiled down to tabloid sensationalized rags devoid of any real journalistic integrity.
ecco
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Fox may have more viewers that CBS or NBC or CNN or ABC. That's because it is the only major source of things of interest to the Radical right wing conservatives. Moderate viewers are split among the others.
PureX
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The Fox Network, like the other media networks, is a profit generator. That is it's one and only purpose for existing: to generate as much profit as possible. And the way it generates it's profit is by creating stories that people like to see presented to them; as news, as entertainment, as political commentary, or sexual titillation, or as whatever else, so that Fox can then sell our visual attention to advertisers, for money. Everything you see on Fox (and on the other networks) between the ads is intended to keep you paying attention until the next set of ads. And that's it. It is not intended to inform, or to be realistic, or to be honest, or to be smart, or to be anything but interesting enough to keep you watching until they can put that next set of advertisements in front of you, for you to look at. And so they can get paid.
That's it.
That's all any of the tv networks exist to do.
So we need to stop pretending to ourselves that the "news" is news. Or that the political "opinions" are informed. Or that the conflict we're being presented is real. Because it's ALL sensationalized BS! Created to keep us watching those advertisements.
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It might surprise you to know that I don't have a glowing report of Fox either. Honestly all news agencies have become soap operas.
I think the only one I have respect for is Reuters. How long that would last I don't know, but they seem neutral and on the level. Cross fingers.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
They are basically an arm of the Republican Party here in the States, and they are to t.v. news as the National Enquirer is to the written news. According to numerous independent studies, they are the least accurate and most bias of all the national t.v. new outlets here, followed by MSNBC. The most accurate is PBS NewsHour followed by CNN according to PolitiFact.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
It also was created by Rupert Murdock to reflect "conservative values", which obviously implies they're not going to be even-handed.
In what I have seen, people who gravitate towards Fox want "confirmation bias", not serious news. But, either way, we should always check numerous sources, and I do check in on Fox periodically.
PureX
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The only way we're going to get real news these days is to pay for it by subscription. Even then, "news" outlets will sell us propaganda instead of news if we're willing to buy it. And sadly, many of us are very willing to buy it, and then pretend it's real news, because that's how propaganda works: it tells us what we wanted to be true, is true, allowing us to close our minds to any other possibility.
I vote for Fox News as profitteering off of conservatives and the elderly.
Better to ask, which news organization do you think isn't doing this?
(It seems they all are.)Anyway, if you want to know if you're reading news versus hearing an ideological sales pitch the way to test it is simple. Ask yourself: What action are they trying to get me to take? Am I supposed to feel a certain way, or buy something to remedy some situation? What do they want me to do? How does knowing this help me and what facts are presented?
If the thrust of the message is a "call to action" of this type, then you are receiving marketing ad not news. Turn off the channel and carry on with your day. News is about facts not about trying to make you feel a certain way or illicit a response.
Addendum: You can still watch this "marketing" for facts and disregard the spin. In that case, just make sure you're watching a broad range of reporting on the topics so you're not missing any perspectives.
Could be. I tend to look at news outlets with a certain skeptical eye in general, not just Fox. I find the better approach is to look at multiple news outlets whenever possible. But one should also be able to sift through what is being asserted as "fact" versus what is speculation, commentary, or opinion.
I find myself more and more dissatisfied with the way media operate in general. It seems like the typical news program might be 10% of actual "news," while the rest is commentary and panel discussions among the talking heads about the few news stories they deigned to actually cover.
What I've noticed is that a lot of what they do, regardless of whether or not their stories are true, they decide which events and issues are important and which ones should be ignored or given less consideration. They don't tell people what the news actually is, as much as they're telling the public which issues they should care about.
i couldn't find anything more recent than this
PolitiFact - MSNBC, Fox, CNN move the needle on our Truth-O-Meter scorecards
I think they have more viewers because people got tired of the Radical Left Wing Liberals.... Moderate viewers are split among a few.
True! I just basically read headlines... "There is Covid in the US" ok... got it!
after that....
Sure but I wouldn't limit this to only FOX. Its editorial shows are mostly conservative entertainment. Liberals have their own shows for entertainment. Can't blame either for giving their audience what they want. Success in entertainment is not about facts. It is about ratings and advertising dollars.
The FOX formula is getting a little old though. Well I suppose their editorial hosts are getting a bit long in the tooth.