Free Will and Taking Life into Your Own Hands

[Fool]

does life gives us free will to follow our dreams and be responsible for ourselves and others without codependency?

 

[PureX]

does life gives us free will to follow our dreams and be responsible for ourselves and others without codependency?

We are all 'codependent' to a degree, as we humans are a social/cooperative species.

Keep in mind that our 'free will' is still very limited. There are a great many things we might at any time 'will to do', that we will not ever be able to actually do.

 

[Fool]

We are all 'codependent' to a degree, as we humans are a social/cooperative species.

Keep in mind that our 'free will' is still very limited. There are a great many things we might at any time 'will to do', that we will not ever be able to actually do.

in psychology, there is a difference between codependency and interdependency.


you are correct that there is this dependency but co-dependency is unhealthy when a person is trying to control your life, or you, there's.

in other words, self has to choose what is acceptable for self and allow others to do the same; when they have reached an age to be self-sustainable.

 

[PureX]

in psychology, there is a difference between codependency and interdependency.


you are correct that there is this dependency but co-dependency is unhealthy when a person is trying to control your life, or you, there's.

in other words, self has to choose what is acceptable for self and allow others to do the same; when they have reached an age to be self-sustainable.

For us to live together in a functional society, people have to "control our behavior", and we have to control theirs. And we are never really "self-sustaining".

 

[Fool]

For us to live together in a functional society, people have to "control our behavior", and we have to control theirs. And we are never really "self-sustaining".

you're never really depending exclusively on everyone else either. there is a happy medium. its called the golden rule. this is just another iteration of that idea.

 

[dybmh]

does life gives us free will to follow our dreams and be responsible for ourselves and others without codependency?

Yes... with limits.

Icarus - Wikipedia

 

[Fool]

Yes... with limits.

Icarus - Wikipedia

the medium between two extremes

 

[Nakosis]

does life gives us free will to follow our dreams and be responsible for ourselves and others without codependency?

Do we need free will to follow our dreams?

Do we get to choose our dreams?

 

[PureX]

you're never really depending exclusively on everyone else either. there is a happy medium. its called the golden rule. this is just another iteration of that idea.

I disagree. I think we all like to think we are so 'independent', when in reality we are very mutually-dependent on each other for nearly everything we need to survive and thrive. And this persistent misconception enables and breeds endless degrees of selfishness and irresponsibility toward each other. To the point where we are literally participating in the systematic destruction of other people's lives while thinking that somehow OUR LIVES will not be affected by it. Or will even be improved by it.

This delusion of 'divine autonomy' is a poison that is very likely to kill us all.

 

[Fool]

I disagree. I think we all like to think we are so 'independent', when in reality we are very mutually-dependent on each other for nearly everything we need to survive and thrive. And this persistent misconception enables and breeds endless degrees of selfishness and irresponsibility toward each other. To the point where we are literally participating in the systematic destruction of other people's lives while thinking that somehow OUR LIVES will not be affected by it. Or will even be improved by it.

This delusion of 'divine autonomy' is a poison that is very likely to kill us all.

not everyone is an extrovert and social monster/butterfly. introverts like some alone time. they actually thrive on introvert island for short periods of time.

 

[BSM1]

Yes..

 

[OtherSheep]

does life gives us free will to follow our dreams and be responsible for ourselves and others without codependency?

God gives us free will. That means the freedom to choose eternal life with the Creator and live according to His law as told to us by Jesus. Or the freedom to choose eternal separation from the Creator and all of His things.

 

[PureX]

not everyone is an extrovert and social monster/butterfly. introverts like some alone time. they actually thrive on introvert island for short periods of time.

Alone time has nothing to do with it. It's about mutual dependence and cooperation as essential to our survival. And that in ignoring this dependence, and eschewing cooperation, we threaten our very survival.

 

[Fool]

Alone time has nothing to do with it. It's about mutual dependence and cooperation as essential to our survival. And that in ignoring this dependence, and eschewing cooperation, we threaten our very survival.

individuality, autonomy is necessary too; otherwise.





What makes interconnections healthy is interdependency, not codependency. Paradoxically, interdependency requires two people capable of autonomy (the ability to function independently). When couples love each other, it’s normal to feel attached, to desire closeness, to be concerned for each another, and to depend upon each other. Their lives are intertwined, and they’re affected by and need each other. However, they share power equally and take responsibility for their own feelings, actions, and contributions to the relationship. Because they have self-esteem, they can manage their thoughts and feelings on their own and don’t have to control someone else to feel okay.

 

[PureX]

individuality, autonomy is necessary too; otherwise.

Autonomy is a luxury afforded us only once the responsibilities of cooperative dependence have been met. Once our collective needs are sufficiently seen to, then we have the luxury of exploring our individual autonomy. (This is how it would be if we humans were reasonable, and logical.)