Freezing Time

[SalixIncendium]

I used to watch a show with my daughters called Charmed, where one of the characters had the ability to freeze time.

If, hypothetically, you had the ability to freeze time, what, if anything, do you think you could see?

 

[ChristineM]

3 dimensions with the 4th dimension of time being stationary. So whatever was in view the instant before the freeze would stay until time is unfrozen (i guess this would be the movie version)

Or...

Nothing at all freezing time would also freeze the passage of light... no light nothing to see

 

[SalixIncendium]

3 dimensions with the 4th dimension of time being stationary. So whatever was in view the instant before the freeze would stay until time is unfrozen (i guess this would be the movie version)

Or...

Nothing at all freezing time would also freeze the passage of light... no light nothing to see

What if you were somehow able to move within space in that frozen time?

 

[ChristineM]

What if you were somehow able to move within space in that frozen time?

Ah ha, I don't do magic...

But i would say you'd see nothing,, no light

 

[SalixIncendium]

Ah ha, I don't do magic...

But i would say you'd see nothing,, no light

But wouldn't light still be present? The photons would just be frozen in place. If we see light as a result of photons hitting the retina, if we were to move through/into the photons, would we then be able to see?

 

[ChristineM]

But wouldn't light still be present? The photons would just be frozen in place. If we see light as a result of photons hitting the retina, if we were to move through/into the photons, would we then be able to see?

The photons wouldn't move so won't hit the retina. Unless you walked into them and thats above my pay grade.

 

[Quintessence]

Considering we had the first frost of the season today, thought this was gonna be about the chilly season. Oops.

In any case, we can already more or less do this with our imaginations and with inventions like the camera. Cameras record a still moment "frozen" in time. And they've let us see some truly wonderful things, like the actual wings of a hummingbird in flight, which beat too rapidly for our dull senses to compute unless a picture is taken.

 

[Revoltingest]

What if you were somehow able to move within space in that frozen time?

Selective freezing of time?
Things frozen wouldn't experience time.
How would they be seen if they couldn't interact with light & other things?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Selective freezing of time?
Things frozen wouldn't experience time.
How would they be seen if they couldn't interact with light & other things?

Good question. Which is why I created this thread. So we can discuss how light works and how it interacts with vision in relation to time and space.

 

[Revoltingest]

Good question. Which is why I created this thread. So we can discuss how light works and how it interacts with vision in relation to time and space.

Consider that time only exists if there is motion of matter,
energy, fields, or spacetime....ie, something happens.
Without any motion of something, if light falls on it, there'd
be no mechanism to reflect it. Reflection would mean some
change happening to the thing observed.

 

[Onasander]

You'll see a higher rate of sporadic light from virtual particles in friction with frozen normal physics.

A movie was made about this by the older Willy Wonka guy. I'll see if I can track that movie down in my next post.

 

[ChristineM]

Good question. Which is why I created this thread. So we can discuss how light works and how it interacts with vision in relation to time and space.

You cannot see light, what you see is what lights interacts with. Tables, walls, people, dust etc

 

[Alien826]

I'm wondering what would happen at the boundaries of the frozen area with the rest of the world. The molecules outside would be moving around normally but the molecules inside would be stationary. Perhaps some enormous release of energy would occur, destroying everything for miles around. Don't try this at home children!

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm wondering what would happen at the boundaries of the frozen area with the rest of the world. The molecules outside would be moving around normally but the molecules inside would be stationary. Perhaps some enormous release of energy would occur, destroying everything for miles around. Don't try this at home children!

It's worse than that.....
Democrats would want budget cuts.
Republicans would support abortion rights.
Trump would apologize for being a boorish thug.
MAGAs would start advocating vaccinations against diseases.
I would begin daily bathing.
@Rival would abandon dungarees for skimpy evening gowns.
@ChristineM would move to New Jersey to open a fast food joint.
@Quagmire's monkey would stop supporting him, & tell him to get a job.

It would be the end of the world as we know it.

 

[SalixIncendium]

You cannot see light, what you see is what lights interacts with. Tables, walls, people, dust etc

Are you seeing the objects, or are you seeing the photons that are reflected off these objects?

 

[Onasander]

Not a gene wilder movie.... weird, I remember it being so.

 

[ChristineM]

Are you seeing the objects, or are you seeing the photons that are reflected off these objects?

Yes.

Photons.

However you cannot see them between the object and your eye.

Switch on a laser beam in a complete vacuum and you wouldn't see the beam, only the spot of source and destination.

Add atmosphere with typical dust and you see the beam interact with dust.

Again it's above my pay grade so perhaps I'm not explaining well.

 

[Onasander]

You cannot see light, what you see is what lights interacts with. Tables, walls, people, dust etc

Virtual particles being dragged into our existence would form, and you'll see them along trajectories that don't interact with our space time. So if I had a cube infront of me, I'd potentially see the everything possible save the cube. Air has particles frozen too, so that would potentially look like static. I'm not thrilled with the idea of friction producing gamma ray light. Impossible to guess what would happen.

And for anyone interested.... I bought the book off Amazon but obviously don't have it anymore so can look the transaltion's title name, my position developed out of the medieval Buddhist vs early Vedanta debates on if darkness was a substance or not. I've spent time thinking about it in terms of polarized light. It's not as obvious the Buddhists were intrinsically as wrong as modern optometry would suggest. If you puta few polarized lenses together light behaves weird. Suggests we have more to learn about what underlines particle physics.

 

[Bthoth]

I used to watch a show with my daughters called Charmed, where one of the characters had the ability to freeze time.

If, hypothetically, you had the ability to freeze time, what, if anything, do you think you could see?

What stocks to buy.

 

[Onasander]

That's the book. Vedantic vs Buddhist debate on the nature of light, and a number of other debates.

Nyaya Siddhanta Dipah Of Sasadhara​