Would I be called a "true disbeliever"?
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Fundamentalist Atheists
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AmbiguousGuy
Well-Known Member
I'm guessing you'd be called worse. Much worse. But everyone would still love you.
John Doe
Member
This discussion about a specific subset of atheists - those with an aggressive arrogant streak -has been actively devolved into a binary opposition argument of religion vs atheism.
This is how any criticism of said aggressive arrogant people is derailed when they are also atheists.
It it as though these atheists feel that they are are a privileged group, such that any degree of uncivil provocation from them is sacrosanct.
Funny, that's what some are saying about the religious ...
So, are those arguing in the negative actually suggesting that there are no atheists who ever cross the line of civility ?
What an extraordinary claim.
It's almost ... religious.
This is how any criticism of said aggressive arrogant people is derailed when they are also atheists.
It it as though these atheists feel that they are are a privileged group, such that any degree of uncivil provocation from them is sacrosanct.
Funny, that's what some are saying about the religious ...
So, are those arguing in the negative actually suggesting that there are no atheists who ever cross the line of civility ?
What an extraordinary claim.
It's almost ... religious.
Who do you think is making such a claim? Please be specific.
Some you tube rants by atheists are a little annoying so I turn them off and not because I disagree with them, it's just that I don't need to hear it and maybe because I have heard it all before, or like I said, just plain annoying.
Some can be really good such as this one, it even has a punchline:
[youtube]6ZDIbw9qyCo[/youtube]
Atheist Weeps For Jesus. - YouTube
Some can be really good such as this one, it even has a punchline:
[youtube]6ZDIbw9qyCo[/youtube]
Atheist Weeps For Jesus. - YouTube
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yoda89
On Xtended Vacation
I have found most atheist perspectives to encompass the idea that they may in fact be wrong. Those who do not admit the slight possibility of doing so are no different from those claiming they already have knowledge of what they do not understand.
A group of people all believing an exact set of principles written long ago must be questioned. As such principles are most likely going to repeat past tragedy.
A group of people all believing an exact set of principles written long ago must be questioned. As such principles are most likely going to repeat past tragedy.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I've found that this applies to the vast majority of emotionally and cognitively-matured atheists as well. It seems to be popular to focus on a few particularly loud/angry/visible atheists in order to create a stereotype of atheists, which then allows people to dismiss all atheists. However, this two-dimensional caricature has no relation to most rationalist atheists, although it does provide a convenient mechanism for many religious people to discount many uncomfortable atheistic arguments out of hand.
John Doe
Member
Being specific is not necessary. Also it would break the rules of the forum to name any members and state that they are arrogant *****s.
You didn't respond to the crucial question in my post.
Do you not see any atheists who are arrogant and provocative for the sake of it ?
In other words, are atheists in general monolithic in social style and emotional maturity ?
I can clearly see that being religious to some degree does not imply a specific simplistic profile. There is a huge range of personality types in any group defined by a single feature.
Are you suggesting otherwise ? Are you suggesting that there are simply no atheists who are insufferable provocateurs of the kind referred to in the OP? You seem to be. And as my last post suggested, that is ironic considering that there are posters here accusing theists of demanding special status.
Asking me to name them is not only an avoidance of my observation, it seems like a ruse to initiate another level of sub-argument to further obscure a very simple and understandable proposition.
So let's get down to it - are there any atheists who do fit the description in this thread, as observed by many members, including those identifying as atheist ?
Yes or no, please.
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Monk Of Reason
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People always try to find ways of making themselves feel better by pointing out something that they can deem lesser in quality in others. Religion is one of those. Lots of atheists get carried away in this euphoric high of self gratified pseudo wisdom where they feel they have awoken from some kind of mindless state in which they can feel superior to all these "stupid" religious folk.
I know this because for a short while I was like that. I have been since humbled. People who are religious or spiritual are not stupid or intellectually challenged. Even some YEC people who are extremely deluded are not actually "stupid".
It seems that there is something afoot that hasn't been fully explained psychologically in terms of why some people believe in god while others don't. I've had a pet theory for a while now that one would be born in a way that would highly lean in one direction.
McBell
Unbound
Yes there are.
Now that I have answered your irrelevant question, perhaps you can be so kind as to reveal the post number in which such a claim has been made?
Because, you know, without said post reference, you have done none more than attack a strawman.
John Doe
Member
McBell
Unbound
Drive by whining?
John Doe
Member
McBell
Unbound
Yes, but you are young, you will outgrow it
Except you are the one running tail tucked...
From your own strawman no less.
CynthiaCypher
Well-Known Member
Walking away from a pointless argument is not equal to one tucking ones tail and running away.
You are a champion at pidgeon chess. Congrats.
Yes, but you are young, you will outgrow it
Don't do this.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
I am particularly interested on why you are annoyed by them more than almost any other group.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Maybe some theists are emotionally attached to their beliefs, and therefore over-sensitive to their beliefs being challenged?
Just a thought....
Just a thought....
McBell
Unbound
One wonders why he presented his strawman argument in the first place?