Further Information About Decline Of Democrat Run Areas.

[esmith]

Seem's that CA isn't the only one losing population due to the asinie policies of the Democrats in charge.
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
Tourists Are Not Coming And Residents Are Fleeing New York City
Leaving New York: High earners in finance and tech explain why they left the 'world's greatest city'
If the wealthiest New Yorkers flee the city, they could take more than $133 billion with them

 

[Revoltingest]

Daughter got a free month of rent in NYC.
This is an unheard of inducement to stay.
Her 350 sq ft apartment is only $3000/mo.

 

[Sunstone]

Yet another political thread from one or another person on one or the other side of the aisle with a childishly simple thesis. In this case, it's, "All Democrats are incompetent to run governments." But what next? Is someone on the left going to start a thread, "All Republicans are mean"?

@esmith, your scheme is to bore me to death, isn't it? Well, at least I can cure my insomnia now by thinking about what the world must look like to you.

Not that you're a boring person, but your ideas! Sheesh!

 

[Quetzal]

I could cherry-pick states/cities that are run by Republicans that rank low in X, Y, or Z. But it is a one-dimensional discussion about something that is far more complicated.

 

[Orbit]

Red states receive more in Federal aid than they pay in taxes and are #1 for people on welfare, teen pregnancies, poverty, and at the bottom of the pile in education. Who can't run things?

 

[Left Coast]

So the country's largest city is...expensive? Gasp!

My friends who moved to Idaho to escape expensive California are now learning that as more people move there...lo! Prices of things are increasing!

 

[Mr Spinkles]

This thread would be a lot more interesting if it was just about the problems California and New York are facing, instead of trying to tie it to a political party.

If we are going to play that game, let’s do it right.

Take the US News and World Report ranked 50 best places to live in America.

Nine of the top ten mayors of these wonderful places are ... drumroll ... DEMOCRATS!

Rayleigh Durham - D
Des Moines - D
Minneapolis- D
Portland - D
Seattle - D
San Francisco - D
Fayetteville - R
Colorado Springs - (edit: R)
Denver - D
Austin - D

Aw, the Republicans made the top ten list with their one city. That’s nice. Enjoy your participation award.

For further information about the growth and desirability of these Democrat run areas, please visit: The 50 best places to live in America, ranked - Business Insider

How many of the people fleeing California and New York are resettling in Republican controlled utopias? Just curious.

** edit: Original post got the mayor wrong for Colorado Springs. Thanks, Sunstone! **

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Austin, #1 place to live in the US according to the rankings:

The capital of Texas gains about 150 new residents daily, many seeking out the city's "music, outdoor spaces, and cultural institutions," said a local expert.

Austin is beloved for its live music scene and is host to some of the country's biggest music and culture festivals, including South by Southwest and Austin City Limits. The city was nicknamed "Silicon Hills" in the 1990s for its status as "among the top areas for venture capital investment in the country."

Wow, this Democrat run area sure is growing! Maybe Republicans can learn a thing or two about fostering music, outdoor spaces and cultural institutions ... not to mention venture capital.

I jest, of course. Growth in Austin doesn’t mean the Democratic Party as a whole is good at governing any more than a decline in New York means the opposite.

But if you want to play the game set up in the OP, esmith, let’s play it right.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Denver, #2 best place to live in America:

While Denver sits at the base of the Rocky Mountains, it's not considered a mountain town since it takes at least an hour to get to the Rockies for snowboarding and ski activities, a local expert explained.

At 5,279 feet, the Mile High City lives up to its name in more ways than one: In 2012, Colorado legalized recreational marijuana, paving the way for a flourishing and lucrative cannabis industry.

Hmm, another great outdoor town, this one with a flourishing and lucrative cannabis industry ... that sounds like a town run by Republicans right? Nope.

 

[Sunstone]

This thread would be a lot more interesting if it was just about the problems California and New York are facing, instead of trying to tie it to a political party.

Indeed it would!

If we are going to play that game, let’s do it right.

Excellent idea! I'll bring the Crisco, you invite @ChristineM, and ask her to bring her rubber sheets!

Wait... um... what exactly did you mean by "do it right"?

Take the US News and World Report ranked 50 best places to live in America.

Nine of the top ten mayors of these wonderful places are ... drumroll ... DEMOCRATS!

Rayleigh Durham - D
Des Moines - D
Minneapolis- D
Portland - D
Seattle - D
San Francisco - D
Fayetteville - R
Colorado Springs - D
Denver - D
Austin - D

Aw, the Republicans made the top ten list with their one city. That’s nice. Enjoy your participation award.

For further information about the growth and desirability of these Democrat run areas, please visit: The 50 best places to live in America, ranked - Business Insider

How many of the people fleeing California and New York are resettling in Republican controlled utopias? Just curious.

Technically, Colorado Springs mayoral elections are non-partisan. Candidates are not identified on the ballot as linked to any political party. However, the current mayor is most certainly a Republican -- albeit a very pragmatic one. He's basically a real estate developer first and foremost.

About 20 years ago, the City experimented with electing several ideologically driven Evangelicals running as Republicans to the mayor's office, the city council, the county commission's board, and some of the school districts. It was in effect a take over of the City by ideologues, such as you might see on Fox.

Things did not go well.

Did I mention we lost our street lights due to mismanagement of the City budget?

Did I mention that was only the start of the problems?

How about the day tourists began showing up having mistaken our potholes for the Grand Canyon.

After just one election cycle, the voters -- both Evangelical Republicans and Democrats -- united to throw out the clowns and replace them with exceedingly more pragmatic and sensible people.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Indeed it would!



Excellent idea! I'll bring the Crisco, you invite @ChristineM, and ask her to bring her rubber sheets!

Wait... um... what exactly did you mean by "do it right"?



Technically, Colorado Springs mayoral elections are non-partisan. Candidates are not identified on the ballot as linked to any political party. However, the current mayor is most certainly a Republican -- albeit a very pragmatic one. He's basically a real estate developer first and foremost.

About 20 years ago, the City experimented with electing several ideologically driven Evangelicals running as Republicans to the mayor's office, the city council, the county commission's board, and some of the school districts. It was in effect a take over of the City by ideologues, such as you might see on Fox.

Things did not go well.

Did I mention we lost our street lights due to mismanagement of the City budget?

Did I mention that was only the start of the problems?

How about the day tourists began showing up having mistaken our potholes for the Grand Canyon.

After just one election cycle, the voters -- both Evangelical Republicans and Democrats -- united to throw out the clowns and replace them with exceedingly more pragmatic and sensible people.

Whoops! Sorry about that. Hopefully I got all the other ones right - I thought I double checked Colorado Springs, but I guess not. Thanks for correcting me.

 

[oldbadger]

Seem's that CA isn't the only one losing population due to the asinie policies of the Democrats in charge.
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
Tourists Are Not Coming And Residents Are Fleeing New York City
Leaving New York: High earners in finance and tech explain why they left the 'world's greatest city'
If the wealthiest New Yorkers flee the city, they could take more than $133 billion with them

Hi Esmith........
You've picked out New York.
Look around..... look around....
A week ago we heard in England that a new strain of Covid, 71% more infectious that before had sprung up in Kent, England. We were put in to lockdown 'that same night' in the South East of England, but the new strain had reached Scotland and Wales, all over, in a week.

Are hyou still reading? Yesterday we heard that a another new strain had sprung up (much more infectious still) in South Africa, a handful of cases reaching the UK at Heathrow.

50 countries put the UK (GB, actually) on lockout...... France stopped any traffic arriving from the UK, and we filled an old US Bomber airport near Dover with 3-5000 juggernauts which won't get home for Christmas. They've just been released WHEN they have been Covid tested/ cleared.

NOW......... what are you moaning about. Eh?
I would dump the tribal aspect of your politics, friend.... and start looking at what's happening. You've lost 1/3rd million so far, about the same % by ;population as the UK........ start looking at what is happening....

 

[Sunstone]

Whoops! Sorry about that. Hopefully I got all the other ones right - I thought I double checked Colorado Springs, but I guess not. Thanks for correcting me.

The nonpartisan elections mask the truth, make it difficult to discern.

 

[Heyo]

Yet another political thread from one or another person on one or the other side of the aisle with a childishly simple thesis. In this case, it's, "All Democrats are incompetent to run governments." But what next? Is someone on the left going to start a thread, "All Republicans are mean"?

@esmith, your scheme is to bore me to death, isn't it? Well, at least I can cure my insomnia now by thinking about what the world must look like to you.

Not that you're a boring person, but your ideas! Sheesh!

I find the desperation and gluttony for punishment of the US right quite entertaining sometimes.
But it's easier when you're far away. Our local clowns are equally ridiculous but it's much more scary when there's a chance they may actually gain power over me.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Seem's that CA isn't the only one losing population due to the asinie policies of the Democrats in charge.
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
Tourists Are Not Coming And Residents Are Fleeing New York City
Leaving New York: High earners in finance and tech explain why they left the 'world's greatest city'
If the wealthiest New Yorkers flee the city, they could take more than $133 billion with them

Its why I became a Republican. I have never ever seen such an oppressive "do as I say, not as you do" political party in all my life, and now the chickens are fleeing the coop because the hungery fox moved in ready to devour anything and everything it sees useful for itself.

New York, like California, is now a Democrat controlled cesspool of misery and destitution for a lot of people.

Just wait till Biden moves in the white house. No escape for anyone now. Their intent is to make the entire nation one big California and New York.

You heard it here first.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Its why I became a Republican. I have never ever seen such an oppressive "do as I say, not as you do" political party in all my life, and now the chickens are fleeing the coop because the hungery fox moved in ready to devour anything and everything it sees useful for itself.

New York, like California, is now a Democrat controlled cesspool of misery and destitution for a lot of people.

Just wait till Biden moves in the white house. No escape for anyone now. Their intent is to make the entire nation one big California and New York.

You heard it here first.

And yet, for all of California’s problems, we would be better off being one big California than one big Alabama, Mississippi or West Virginia, where the median income is one third of the rest of the country.

Eight of the ten bottom-ranked states in the Union are red states that voted for Trump. How can this be? Hmm.

Source: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

Again, why would you assume Joe Biden will turn the US into California, not Delaware? He’s from Delaware.

 

[Sunstone]

Ahem... I cannot help but notice the only state with -- not one, but two -- cities in the top ten best cities to live in ranking happens to be [DRUMROLL] Colorado!

Yes, Colorado. Which also happens to be ranked second in the nation in percentage of the adult population with university degrees and first in the nation in physical fitness. (i.e. Body Mass Index)

PLUS: "Rocky Mountain High" ain't just a song anymore.

Oh... I almost forgot... by the way, @esmith, Democrats control both houses of the Colorado State Legislature, the Governor's Mansion, the Secretary of State's Office, the Attorney-General's Office, the State Treasury, and the University of Colorado Board of Reagents. In short, every state-wide office is occupied by a Democrat. And people are moving here by the tens of thousands each year. I reckon not every American hides under their bed when they hear the word "Democrat".

Just so you know.


And now for a little appropriate music... "The Mountains Win Again"

 

[Mr Spinkles]

New York, like California, is now a Democrat controlled cesspool of misery and destitution for a lot of people.

Strong words. What is your view of Mississippi, West Virginia and Alabama? Republican utopias?

West Virginia has a 27% college education rate, California has 41%. WV median income is $24k, in CA it’s $40k.

Arkansas has the most meth use of any state.

How can this be, in enlightened red MAGA country far from the evil axis of Californians and New Yorkers?

 

[Sunstone]

How can this be, in enlightened red MAGA country far from the evil axis of Californians and New Yorkers?

Why, that's quite a poser, Mr. Spinks! It sure is a mystery to me how that could possibly be!

 

[Sunstone]

Now, I'm no sage, but I think one possible take-away from this thread is that the notion Democrats inevitably run things into the grounds might just be a wee little bit on the childishly simple side of things. I mean, given the evidence presented mainly by @Mr Spinkles.