Gabbard nominated as Director of National Intelligence

[Sargonski]

"Right - Correct !" is clear enough - the rest being silly straw man ad hominem.

Yes .. so let us endeavor to cease engaging in this fallacious behavior .. and embrace our new Hero of the People .. even those such as yourself who do not recognize the greatness .. before your eyes .. fighting against the Collectivist Fascist Oligopoly .. who are not acting in your best interest .. nor the sheep that follow the woke blue cancel crew ..

 

[Sargonski]

Who cares what some small segment of people believe. She's not fit for the position she's been sugested for due to her close relationshi with out adversaries. Rational minds can't trust her. Trump is showing how he is unfit for offise as well. Most of his picks thus far are not qualified or have credibility problems.


Russia influenced and interfered with out last two elections, whether you want to acknowledge it or not. They are not our friends. You can pick which side you are on, the USA and our allies, or Russia. Gabbard seems to like Russia more than some of her fellow citizens. That's fishy. Let her resign and move to Russia is she's so enamoured. Who knows if she has been handing over secrets.

Me : "a fascist tyrant and war monger like Biden who is under the influence of the Oligarchs aka "The Donor Class" ..

You : Here you go again with this disinformation. If you can't get past your bias we can't take you seriously.

What is not true ? -- where is this disinformation. . and how can anyone be taken seriouly who makes such claims but does not support that claim - assumed premise fallacy.

Do you not know what an argument is ? .. that it consists of 2 things 1) Statement of Claim and 2) rational, support, evidence or proof of some king showing that this claim is true.

Biden is a war monger .. full stop .. earning his nick "Gnocide Joe" in the war in Syria . .. under the influence of of the Donor Class .. who push the neocon sychophants in to these endless wars.

This is Washington Politics 101 .. not "waaaa waaaa waaa hands over ears nose mouth or any orifice that might let bad news in .. Disinformation .. Fake news .. " this ridiculous response to anything that might pop necessary illusion bubble.

Have you yet to understand that Team USA .. along with Brother EL Saud, Israel and others .. are by far and away the biggest terrorists on the planet ... the only disinformation in the room is your ridiculous statement 1) Tulsi has close relationships with our adversaries .. and 2) the propaganda falsehood and trope .. that having such close relationships is a bad thing. .. but just false nonsense on both counts .. peddling propaganda and disinformation on your part .. then trying to project your dirty deeds onto others.

There was no significant efforts to influence our election in a negative way .. in either election. another fake news propaganda trope and doublespeak as it was crooked Hillary and the DNC who were doing the election medling.

Do you seriously not have any idea how influence in washington works ?? Never learned in Civics that it is a "Pay to Play" System ? .. did you skip that week ? .. or are you just pretending .. calling stuff that you know is truth "Disinformation .. ?

 

[F1fan]

Me : "a fascist tyrant and war monger like Biden

He’s neither of those two things, so your assumptions are wrong.

Do I need to spend more time pointing out your errors? No.

Get facts right and then we can debate.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yes .. so let us endeavor to cease engaging in this fallacious behavior .. and embrace our new Hero of the People .. even those such as yourself who do not recognize the greatness .. before your eyes .. fighting against the Collectivist Fascist Oligopoly .. who are not acting in your best interest .. nor the sheep that follow the woke blue cancel crew ..

....as already evidenced in real time by the inept Biden / Harris Administration, if one even wants to call it an Administration.

 

[Sargonski]

....as already evidenced in real time by the inept Biden / Harris Administration, if one even wants to call it an Administration.

I admit that I have always hated the GOP since the Religious Right took over .. I am not a fan of Christian Sharia any more than Strict Sharia Islam .. or theocracy period .. as forbidden by the Constitutional Republic and the founding principle which. I am a staunch "my body my choice" believer ..in keeping with the founding principle .. which, interestingly enough is the rock on which Christ build his ministry .. and let me know when the soul arrives (and non fallacious why) for the fundamentalist in the room .. haters of civil liberties "drug war" - "war on Terror" Patriot Act .. , the party of neocon

Trump - reality TV star - knows how to deliver a line in general I challange any to come up with better arguments against him which I wont get into and Republican .. what's not to hate being the point.

In summary . Hate the party .. hate the leader .. never even considered voting Red until the last decade .. classical liberalism my preferred political stripe - any vestage of which has completely disappeared from Blue .. a party now so bad .. that I would move a third party vote into the Red Column .. because that is how bad they have become .. Neocons - "my body my choice no more - (Forced medical Treatment and use of propaganda and cancelling free speech the likes of which the brown shirts would be proud - complete with a Yellow Star) ... Enviro policy = "Not in my back Yard - Dump it in the Ocean" .. brain dead economic policy on the basis of the latter Environmental disaster ... engaging the economic nuclear Option (Trumps biggest blunder in case you were wondering) on the basis of engaging in forever war .. Obamacare - Lipstick on a Pig .. and I am just getting started. .. a party so broken .. and such a woke joke .. that Carrot Top Republican is better .. a massively high bar .. but they did it.

 

[Yerda]

What you are describing is not win-win.

I agree.

What i described is win-win.

But very unlikely.

 

[stvdv]

But when one suffers from Grandiose Narcissism,

one's focus is internal rather than external.

Are you sure about that?

I never see narcs do introspection (focus internal)
Always busy pointing at others (focus external)

 

[Revoltingest]

Are you sure about that?

Yes.

I never see narcs do introspection (focus internal)

It's internal in the sense that everything
he does is to serve himself. It's not about
the good of the country.
I'd never accuse him of introspection.

Always busy pointing at others (focus external)

Because he sees others as
either loyal allies or hated foes.

 

[Foxfyre]

I agree.


But very unlikely.

I don't know about that. Who thought that a political outsider like Donald Trump would be able to persuade North Korea to stop firing missiles over South Korea and Japan? Would cause Russia, China and Iran to stop saber ratting? Would be able to decisively end the war in Syria? Would have the Taliban in check and total submission so that he was winding down the war in Afghanistan effectively and responsibly and would have pulled out safely had he been re-elected in 2020? Who helped negotiate trade/peace treaties between four separate Arab nations and Israel? Who gave us the closest thing to world peace any of us have never known?

I learned never to think Donald Trump couldn't do something he set out to do until he actually couldn't do it.

 

[stvdv]

Yes.

It's internal in the sense that everything
he does is to serve himself.

It did cross my mind for 1 sec, you might have meant that. That indeed is spot on

It's not about
the good of the country.

I'd never accuse him of introspection.

Because he sees others as
either loyal allies or hated foes.

That description does remind me of mr.T

 

[Revoltingest]

That description does remind me of mr.T

What a terrible thing to say...on his birthday!

Happy Birthday Mister_T!!

Have a great birthday Nick! ;):thumbsup: @Mister_T

www.religiousforums.com

 

[stvdv]

What a terrible thing to say...on his birthday!

With 8 billion people, you might be right
There is a mr.T, having birthday Today

Greetings
Taco

 

[Sargonski]

He’s neither of those two things, so your assumptions are wrong.

Do I need to spend more time pointing out your errors? No.

Get facts right and then we can debate.

He is both fascist and tyrant ... .. what part of forced medical treatment ... trampling on civil liberties - including "My body my choice" .. and use of propaganda and censorship to further fascist agenda. .. do not fit into your definition of Fascism ?

Now .. did you forget about the main criticism and comparison to beloved Putin .. Biden is by far the bigger war criminal .. guilty of crimes against humanity .. and most recetly .. supportig a Holocaust .. and thus it is you who is the supporter of Terrorism .. war crimes - crimes against humanity.

Now that you have the facts .. do feel free to post some metrics by which we can measure the crimes against humanity thrust on this world by beloved Putin and Genocide Joe . Slaughter of Children the metric of choice ... time to support your claim rather than running around crying "Wrong wrong wrong" .. as if this is an argument for anything but failure to support your vapid false assertions.

..

 

[Yerda]

I don't know about that. Who thought that a political outsider like Donald Trump would be able to persuade North Korea to stop firing missiles over South Korea and Japan? Would cause Russia, China and Iran to stop saber ratting? Would be able to decisively end the war in Syria? Would have the Taliban in check and total submission so that he was winding down the war in Afghanistan effectively and responsibly and would have pulled out safely had he been re-elected in 2020? Who helped negotiate trade/peace treaties between four separate Arab nations and Israel? Who gave us the closest thing to world peace any of us have never known?

I learned never to think Donald Trump couldn't do something he set out to do until he actually couldn't do it.

Jesus, put down that pipe

 

[stvdv]

The difference appears to be in perceptions. I'm not sure who "cares" about what, but from what I can tell,

the people who oppose Putin do so not because they care so much about Ukraine,

but because they "believe" that Putin is planning to conquer other nations,

possibly all of Europe

I live in Europe, and that thought never crossed my mind

and maybe even the entire world.

Might this have to do with decades full of Russia propaganda in the US? Creating fear, goblins in the mind of the Americans.

I don't remember we've had Russia propaganda in Holland. And discrimination we also don't have where I live. I have been blessed with a peaceful place to live.

 

[stvdv]

She definitely deserves that.

A patriot and a woman who cares about the US soldiers who are precious and valuable...

and whose lives cannot be wasted in idiotic wars artificially created by the MIC.

She seems a really nice woman. And she campaigned with Bernie Sanders, so she should be fine. Thanks for sharing. And she promises that Trump will make life better for all Americans.

Well, that's easy to check. I will note how much Trump and the others earn this year, and again after 4 years. Then compare it with the average income difference.

I hope Gabbard is right, and the Trump administration will not enrich themselves more than the normal Americans.

And above all, I hope all the wars end now
If he manages just that, I think it's worth it

 

[Foxfyre]

Jesus, put down that pipe

Unless you can show how anything I said was wrong, I don't think any 'pipe' is an issue here.

 

[Wirey]

Unless you can show how anything I said was wrong, I don't think any 'pipe' is an issue here.

I'm curious, what would make you think you were wrong? If Trump were convicted of felonies? If there was evidence he slept around on his wife with Playboy models and pornographic film actresses? If he were found guilty of sexually assaulting women in clothing stores? If recordings were released of him claiming grabbing women by their 'personal area' was acceptable once you were famous? If he was such a terrible businessman that he couldn't turn a profit with a casino? What would it take?

 

[Foxfyre]

I'm curious, what would make you think you were wrong? If Trump were convicted of felonies? If there was evidence he slept around on his wife with Playboy models and pornographic film actresses? If he were found guilty of sexually assaulting women in clothing stores? If recordings were released of him claiming grabbing women by their 'personal area' was acceptable once you were famous? If he was such a terrible businessman that he couldn't turn a profit with a casino? What would it take?

I focus on what a man actually does and not what the malicious gossip mongers and disinformation operatives say about him. And I don't think I was wrong. I just happen to allow for the possibility that I could be in those areas I have no first hand up close and personal knowledge.

 

[Wirey]

I focus on what a man actually does and not what the malicious gossip mongers and disinformation operatives say about him. And I don't think I was wrong. I just happen to allow for the possibility that I could be in those areas I have no first hand up close and personal knowledge.

So, he didn't do those things? The 34 felony convictions are lies spread by rumour mongers?