Garner Incident-if you can say "I can't breathe," guess what you can breathe

[metis]

Angels carry swords.
The peace of heaven is guarded.

I'm so glad that RF has provided us with the ignore option, because some of your responses are sickening.

 

[Thief]

I'm so glad that RF has provided us with the ignore option, because some of your responses are sickening.

Try starting a thread about God and heaven...see you there?.......maybe

 

[SkepticThinker]

You implied that the ONLY reason he died was because he couldn't breathe. Hypertensive cardiovascular disease can cause heart failure . . . . and death, particularly under stressful conditions. .

Yup, but I have no doubt that you weren't in a position where you could have repeatedly said "I can't breathe."

Calm down dude. Bottom line is, even if he died from heart failure, or whatever else you'd like to assert, the fact of the matter is that in all likelihood he would NOT be dead if he'd not been put in a choke hold.

 

[Thief]

Calm down dude. Bottom line is, even if he died from heart failure, or whatever else you'd like to assert, the fact of the matter is that in all likelihood he would NOT be dead if he'd not been put in a choke hold.

And had he not waved his hands and told the police...don't touch me....
He might still be breathing.

 

[JM2C]

I thought this was all caught on video as well.

FYI you cant breathe is your brain urging you to find a position of breathing ASAP because you are deprived of the right amount of air to be able to keep breathing. Just a thought.

I can't breathe is like tapping out in a wrestling/MMA match, i.e., if your hands are tied-up of course.

 

[JM2C]

And had he not waved his hands and told the police...don't touch me....
He might still be breathing.

"don't touch me" as resisting an unlawful arrest?

 

[Storm]

I don't have expertise in subduing people.
It would be reckless to guess at it.

Well cops do, or at least they should and we're told they do. So what's your point?

 

[Thief]

"don't touch me" as resisting an unlawful arrest?

Not up to the citizen at the time of arrest.

You get told ......you're under arrest......it's over.
Don't touch me is then resistance.

 

[Jumi]

Not up to the citizen at the time of arrest.

You get told ......you're under arrest......it's over.
Don't touch me is then resistance.

Harsh.

 

[JM2C]

You implied that the ONLY reason he died was because he couldn't breathe. Hypertensive cardiovascular disease can cause heart failure . . . . and death, particularly under stressful conditions. .

He stopped talking meaning he stopped breathing or passed out then after that they should have resuscitated him from having brain damage or lack of oxygen to the brain. This was according to the ME's report.

Yup, but I have no doubt that you weren't in a position where you could have repeatedly said "I can't breathe."

When you're fighting for your life you could say "I can't breathe" till you stop talking.

 

[JM2C]

Are you really implying that the police deliberately killed Garner?

The least he could have gotten or should have gotten is involuntary manslaughter

 

[Storm]

Harsh.

Totalitarian. Isn't this country supposed to be against such things?

 

[Thief]

What's the matter people?...no one ever explained the concept of arrest?

The nice officer will say.....you're under arrest.
Your rights will be explained to you.

Your denial in the face of the arresting officer means nothing.

Tell it to the judge.

 

[ChristineES]

I keep hearing conflicts of what the man died of. If he indeed died because of being choked, as what the coroner pointed out, then that would be manslaughter, at least. If he died of a heart attack or something else, then it could be manslaughter (fear brings on heart attacks, and so does cutting the blood supply like what the police were doing reportedly in other news sources.
Either way, the police used too much force on the man. He wasn't even harming anyone. He was breaking the law, yes, of course, but it was a misdemeanor: Selling single cigarettes without a license. Not even our trigger happy police officers here in San Diego would have reacted this way.

 

[Thief]

Break the law....go to jail.
You're under arrest.

I see this as an arrest with an unfortunate ending.
It could have been better.

Big guy could have said....yes sir.

 

[Thief]

Harsh.

but soooooooooooooooooooooooo real.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

What's the matter people?...no one ever explained the concept of arrest?

The nice officer will say.....you're under arrest.
Your rights will be explained to you.

Your denial in the face of the arresting officer means nothing.

Tell it to the judge.

IOW, "comply or die":

"Comply or Die" policing must stop

Are you happy with this system, or do you think it should change?

 

[Thief]

IOW, "comply or die":

"Comply or Die" policing must stop

Are you happy with this system, or do you think it should change?

I didn't hear or see report of a death threat by police.
Sorry the big guy had a condition.
He should have gone for the ride with the 'nice' officers.

 

[ChristineES]

Break the law....go to jail.
You're under arrest.

I see this as an arrest with an unfortunate ending.
It could have been better.

Big guy could have said....yes sir.

No one is saying that he should not have been arrested (at least, I haven't noticed that).

 

[Thief]

No one is saying that he should not have been arrested (at least, I haven't noticed that).

Oh good....
and you do understand that physical confrontations are risky?