Gay Radicals Disrupt/Protest Worship Services

[Autodidact]

ITs this kind of 'its not your right to decide what I should have' that is exactly why you havent broken any ground yet. The people who you want to support you wont sit for your condescending comments. You want your rights but at the same time, you diminish mine.

It's not condescending to remind you that you're not in charge of my life. It's condescending of you to think, and say, that you are. Please explain exactly how the gay marriage movement diminishes your rights.

Sorry wont work. And i suggest you wake up monday morning and tell me how your gonna start respecting heterosexuals, before you attempt to change your civil unions.

By continuing to support them in enjoying their full civil rights.

The people who you are trying to convince need to like you. .....and your comments about me not having any say in what you should have...is true...but its not getting you any noddy badges.

No, you don't need to like me. You only need to recognize that I'm right. How you feel about me is your business. And if you agree with me, then why on earth would it be wrong for me to say it? Why not just grow up and say, "You're right.?"

What happens in your bedroom is your business. Dont MAKE it mine. And dont then tell me what I should think about the term 'marriage' either. Its not your business either. Thats the perception of most heterosexuals, and that is what your up against. Unless of course you wanna put pride aside, recognise heterosexuals concern regarding 'marriage' and get out of the streets and away from snotty comments like 'i dont have the right to decide what is right for you'. I can just say...ditto...you dont have the right to decide what i should feel about gay marriages.

Of course not, heneni, that's up to you, as I said. But as I also said, why do you want to be wrong? Just exactly what is your concern? I don't get it. What skin is it off your nose what I do? Do you have a psychological need to feel special that will somehow be diminished if other people get to do it too?

 

[DallasApple]

What happens in your bedroom is your business. Dont MAKE it mine. And dont then tell me what I should think about the term 'marriage' either. Its not your business either.

But really its the other way around Heneni..many make it their "concern" what "gay people" do in the bedroom..No..not what gay people are doing in the bedroom..that gay people are in the bedroom together at ALL..and then act to set up road blocks and restrictions on them because of what people "imagine" is going on in the privacy of their "bedroom"..

Love

Dallas

 

[Heneni]

Gay people are some of the people who cant pay their rent..eat right..or go to the doctor too Heneni...

And I personally? Start with family..I paid for my DIL to go to the doctor because she was sick and didnt have money to go to the doctor..ended up she had pneumona..my husband buys them food every week and brings it to them so they have enough..And on top of that?..We treat them to special events and enrichment..Such as going to Six Flags and the Dallas Zoo..and to dinner on occasion...

Love

Dallas

The gay agenda is a public one. The agenda of the poor has been put on the shelf.

I would rather see people getting worked up about poverty and have millions of dollars raised by the churhc to help the dying, sick, lonely and hungry. Instead we have MILLIONS of dollars for a prop 8 campaing. Both the goverment and the church have lost the plot, and it seems so have the homosexuals. You dont get support by force, and aggression, and pity parties, and riots and protest and bickering and snotty comments about heterosexuals. If im not careful ill start feeling like i have to say sorry im straight.

Ive had enough of gay people's RIGHTS....there are people dying for goodness sakes, and if they are gay.....HELP them as well.


Heneni

 

[DallasApple]

The gay agenda is a public one. The agenda of the poor has been put on the shelf.

Its a public one because the public has made it their business..to prevent gay's from having marriages..

No one is running around trying to change laws trying to make it illegal to feed a hungry person..You want to feed a hungry person or help the poor?..Then feed a hungry person and help a poor person get a job or give them some money if they get in a spot and cant pay their rent....Like I do...No law prevents me from doing that..

Love

Dallas

 

[Heneni]

Its a public one because the public has made it their business..to prevent gay's from having marriages..

No one is running around trying to change laws trying to make it illegal to feed a hungry person..You want to feed a hungry person or help the poor?..Then feed a hungry person and help a poor person get a job or give them some money if they get in a spot and cant pay their rent....Like I do...

Love

Dallas

I think its important to understand WHY the public spoke out against it. The gay community would like to think its because the majority of people are discriminating against them. But there is FAR more gay tolerance now than there were many years ago. Its just..they are never satisfied, and people are not sure what they are going to push for next. Its like they are just never happy.

 

[DallasApple]

But there is FAR more gay tolerance now than there were many years ago. Its just..they are never satisfied, and people are not sure what they are going to push for next. Its like they are just never happy.

What in the world would you think they would "push for" "next"?

Love

Dallas

 

[Father Heathen]

I think its important to understand WHY the public spoke out against it. The gay community would like to think its because the majority of people are discriminating against them. But there is FAR more gay tolerance now than there were many years ago. Its just..they are never satisfied, and people are not sure what they are going to push for next. Its like they are just never happy.

Are you saying that blacks shouldn't have fought against segregation and simply should've been satisfied with the abolishment of slavery? Seriously, why should someone feel "satisfied" with anything less than equality?

 

[DallasApple]

I think its important to understand WHY the public spoke out against it.

Fear..and the desire to control..

Love

Dallas

 

[Heneni]

Fear..and the desire to control..

Love

Dallas

I personally dont desire to control what happens in other peoples bedrooms and id be hard pressed to think that the majority of the public want to control what happens in other peoples bedrooms either. I could care less. Im not afraid of gay people, but i am concerned about their constant inability to be satisfied.

I feel that gay AGGRESSION isnt helping the general public feel SAFE.

Heneni

 

[Heneni]

Are you saying that black shouldn't have fought against segregation and simply should've been satisfied with the abolishment of slavery? Seriously, why should someone fell "satisfied" with anything less than equality?

Gay marriages does in no way fall in the same league as slavery father. There is already equality in my opinion. I dont get killed for having sex, and neither do homosexuals get killed in your country for having sex. Sooo...what other equality do you want? Freedom to get married? They have it...they just dont like it.

Heneni

 

[Heneni]

What in the world would you think they would "push for" "next"?

Love

Dallas

I dont know..but it seems like whatever it is..it will be 'in our face' for sure.

Its time to change tactics. Whatever the gay community has been doing its had to opposite effect on what they wanted. They should never have played the discrimination card. They put themselves in the seat of the disadvantaged. And at the same time their outspokeness doesnt make them look disadvantaged, but rather ungrateful.

They have played the sympathy card as well. And it has worn out. People dont feel sorry for them anymore. You cant play the sympathy card while calling the heterosexuals oppressors. Who's left to give sympathy then?

Manipulation can only take you so far.

Heneni

 

[Autodidact]

The gay agenda is a public one. The agenda of the poor has been put on the shelf.

I would rather see people getting worked up about poverty and have millions of dollars raised by the churhc to help the dying, sick, lonely and hungry. Instead we have MILLIONS of dollars for a prop 8 campaing. Both the goverment and the church have lost the plot, and it seems so have the homosexuals. You dont get support by force, and aggression, and pity parties, and riots and protest and bickering and snotty comments about heterosexuals. If im not careful ill start feeling like i have to say sorry im straight.

You have it exactly backwards. What actually happened is that some gay people went to court and won the right to get married, and then thousands of other people, many of them from another state, spent millions of dollars and much energy trying to take that right away from them. I think those are the people you want to be talking to.

Ive had enough of gay people's RIGHTS....there are people dying for goodness sakes, and if they are gay.....HELP them as well.

O.K., now you've completely run out of arguments, and are trying to say that somehow when people fight for their rights, it's trivial, because THERE ARE PEOPLE DYING! Heneni: There are people dying! Get off your chair, stop messing around on a message board, and go save them! It's not an excuse to deny some other people their rights.

 

[Autodidact]

I dont know..but it seems like whatever it is..it will be 'in our face' for sure.

Its time to change tactics. Whatever the gay community has been doing its had to opposite effect on what they wanted. They should never have played the discrimination card. They put themselves in the seat of the disadvantaged. And at the same time their outspokeness doesnt make them look disadvantaged, but rather ungrateful.

They have played the sympathy card as well. And it has worn out. People dont feel sorry for them anymore. You cant play the sympathy card while calling the heterosexuals oppressors. Who's left to give sympathy then?

Manipulation can only take you so far.

Heneni

Oh, I see, it's not the issues, it's the tactics that's the problem. All those marches, initiatives, lawsuits, petitions and books. They need to start bombing people, or possibly shooting people, because those parades are really horrible!!!! "The discrimination card?!?! Here's an idea: how about if people stop discriminating against us? Just last weekend I met a high school Spanish teacher in Colorado Springs who told me that she could not admit to her coworkers that she's gay, at risk of losing her job. The way to take the "discrimination card" away from us is really easy--stop discriminating against us.

Advocating is not manipulating. It's a fine American tradition.

 

[Autodidact]

I think its important to understand WHY the public spoke out against it. The gay community would like to think its because the majority of people are discriminating against them. But there is FAR more gay tolerance now than there were many years ago. Its just..they are never satisfied, and people are not sure what they are going to push for next. Its like they are just never happy.

O.K., why don't you tell us, Heneni. Why are you against gay marriage?

 

[Autodidact]

I personally dont desire to control what happens in other peoples bedrooms and id be hard pressed to think that the majority of the public want to control what happens in other peoples bedrooms either. I could care less. Im not afraid of gay people, but i am concerned about their constant inability to be satisfied.

I feel that gay AGGRESSION isnt helping the general public feel SAFE.

Heneni

Yes, all those militant gays filling the streets, marching around with AK-47's and demanding their rights--it's downright dangerous!

When was the last time a gay person beat you up for being straight, Heneni? Now that's aggression--and it happens to gay people all the time.

 

[Autodidact]

Gay marriages does in no way fall in the same league as slavery father. There is already equality in my opinion. I dont get killed for having sex, and neither do homosexuals get killed in your country for having sex. Sooo...what other equality do you want? Freedom to get married? They have it...they just dont like it.

Heneni

Well, they do in Saudi Arabia.
In any case, do you understand the point? Why should other people--not you, of course, be satisfied with injustice and inequality? Come to think of it, why are you satisfied with living in a society that perpetuates that?

 

[Heneni]

I talked about the poor to use it as an example of what other people might think is SLIGHTLY more important than gay marriages. And i think i wouldnt be alone when i say that indeed the plight of the poor is more important than the plight of gay marriages. But ok..to you gay marriages is important fair enough. So then...if its that important...go to court. You did, and you won. And then...that descision was overturned. Now what?

Well..realise that your tactics did not work. You should have had the backing of the millions who voted against it, before going to court. That would have been a better idea. You see...by taking this thing to court, you frightened many heterosexuals, by trying to use the arm of the law to take away from them what they percieve to be theirs. And now...youve lost clout and support.

Heneni

 

[Father Heathen]

Why do you keep talking like heterosexuals are a homogeneous group and that you speak for all of them? We're not the borg, and I'm definitely not frightened by homosexuals. To what, exactly, do they pose a threat?

 

[Heneni]

Well, they do in Saudi Arabia.
In any case, do you understand the point? Why should other people--not you, of course, be satisfied with injustice and inequality? Come to think of it, why are you satisfied with living in a society that perpetuates that?

You live in america right? Do they kill you for having sex with a women? No.

Come to think of it, why arent gay people doing more to protect those in saudi arabia from getting killed?

Unless homosexuals start using the words injustice and inequality in a way that convinces heterosexuals that they are included in the homosexuals idea of justice and equality, you wont be making many friends with them.

To you, justice means getting 'married'. Im still trying to get my head around how marriage has become an injustice. It wasnt one before, until the homosexuals made it look like one. So then...why dont you rather take civil unions and make it better for yourself? NOOOOO.....we want to rock the boat and even if it kills you, you need to be 'married'. When the world extended a hand, you bit it off.

Heneni

 

[DallasApple]

I feel that gay AGGRESSION isnt helping the general public feel SAFE.

Safe??..You have to be kidding me?..All my life I was warned that predators are out there that would want to do me harm..As a child "kidnappers" might snatch me..and on growing up people who would steal from me...as a woman in particular being RAPED by MAN...SURE a certain percentage of the people that would do that to me might be gay...

But I'll tell you what..if Im walking through a dimly lit parking lot Im not looking over my shoulder thinking..."the gay people are out there and they might get me"..or when Im out with my young children or now my grandbaby I dont think "I cant take my eye off of him for one second..cuz the "gays" might get him"...

So what do you mean by the "the general public feeling safe"

If ANYTHING gays are specifically unsafe themselves IN the general public because they are and have been targeted for VIOLENT crimes because they are GAY!..The same as women are because they are the target of RAPE...

Love

Dallas