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Gay, Trans, Race, Books, etc

We Never Know

No Slack
Gay, Trans, Race, Books, etc. Are this issues only an American/USA problem are do these problems exist in other countries as well.
Before you ask "what problem", there are many threads here about issues and issues in the news almost daily about these things
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Gay, Trans, Race, Books, etc. Are this issues only an American/USA problem are do these problems exist in other countries as well.
Before you ask "what problem", there are many threads here about issues and issues in the news almost daily about these things
I am unaware whether this is an issue in other places, but I do agree that people wanting a nanny state dictating what books can be in school is a current affair.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I am unaware whether this is an issue in other places, but I do agree that people wanting a nanny state dictating what books can be in school is a current affair.

Yes. Books in school, don't say gay, transgenders in sports, NAACP issuing a travel advisory for Florida, etc.
It seems these have became daily issues in the US and I was wondering if others countries suffer from any of the same issues.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Gay, Trans, Race, Books, etc. Are this issues only an American/USA problem are do these problems exist in other countries as well.
Before you ask "what problem", there are many threads here about issues and issues in the news almost daily about these things

They're not a discussed issue in my country because most of society here is too conservative to even consider allowing books about LGBT issues to be sold publicly, let alone read out or taught at a school. Selling books about LGBT issues to the public or teaching them at a school would definitely result in legal repercussions and heavy social backlash. As for race, it's not as much of a historical focal point here as it is for the US, although I think this country could benefit from more education about racism because racist attitudes do exist and harm a lot of people.

I wish such books were a "problem" here. The fact that the US has controversies about this means public discourse about sensitive issues is still alive and active. It's a sign that there's hope for improvement and change. More countries can benefit from having such a "problem."
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
I am unaware whether this is an issue in other places, but I do agree that people wanting a nanny state dictating what books can be in school is a current affair.
It is obvious that schools should decide what books are in schools (excepting when the school acts in violation of the constitution I.e. allowing some religious books and not others, or allowing some religious texts to have a place of prominence).
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Gay, Trans, Race, Books, etc. Are this issues only an American/USA problem are do these problems exist in other countries as well.
Before you ask "what problem", there are many threads here about issues and issues in the news almost daily about these things
These problems are not that prevalent. Vested interests greatly exaggerate how much of these things exist in America.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Gay, Trans, Race, Books, etc. Are this issues only an American/USA problem are do these problems exist in other countries as well.
Before you ask "what problem", there are many threads here about issues and issues in the news almost daily about these things
It's only controversial for schools, bathrooms, athletes, and of course it's for the children.

Nobody really cares two ***** otherwise.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Gay, Trans, Race, Books, etc. Are this issues only an American/USA problem are do these problems exist in other countries as well.
Before you ask "what problem", there are many threads here about issues and issues in the news almost daily about these things
While homophobic, transphobic, racist and ignorant people exist here, they aren't as ubiquitous, as loud and in power.
People here care about the environment and argue how to tackle global warming.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Gay, Trans, Race, Books, etc. Are this issues only an American/USA problem are do these problems exist in other countries as well.
Before you ask "what problem", there are many threads here about issues and issues in the news almost daily about these things
How about with the NAZI's in Germany and the Neo-NAZI's that followed, including some here in the States?
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Gay, Trans, Race, Books, etc. Are this issues only an American/USA problem are do these problems exist in other countries as well.
Before you ask "what problem", there are many threads here about issues and issues in the news almost daily about these things

We have it in Denmark too, but the evolution of it is different.
You are not that special in general, just special for your variant of how it plays out.
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
Gay, Trans, Race, Books, etc. Are this issues only an American/USA problem are do these problems exist in other countries as well.
Before you ask "what problem", there are many threads here about issues and issues in the news almost daily about these things
In the UK, occasional conflicts pop-up but they're generally not spun up in to a big national partisan political issue.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Gay, Trans, Race, Books, etc. Are this issues only an American/USA problem are do these problems exist in other countries as well.
Before you ask "what problem", there are many threads here about issues and issues in the news almost daily about these things
To be completely honest.
I remember hearing about such controversy in my country (Australia) back in the 90s -2000s but it has seemingly gone away by now.
Mind you, we have our own unique issues when it comes to race relations specifically.

It did come up a bit just after 9/11. With tensions kind of boiling over. But that too has seemingly died down since.

I occasionally hear of debates about whether certain topics are age appropriate or could they be made appropriate.

And I certainly won’t pretend there aren’t a bunch of issues in my country pertaining to racism, homophobia, sexism etc
But it seems to be kept among adults for the most part.
With people seemingly okay with kids learning about these issues from books that would probably be controversial in current US politics. Generally speaking of course.
There are always going to be complaints but I haven’t really seen them reach the stage of actually getting rid of books in school libraries. Not recently anyway
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
Is your media there as bad about making mountains out of mole hills like they are here in the US?
They certainly can be, though it's more focused on tabloid "news"papers (and their websites) rather than TV "news". This simply isn't an issue that raises as much attention as it appears to in the US.

I suspect it is more a function of different cultures and politics. We don't have the same simplistic binary political sides or anything like as strong involvement from religious organisations (ironically, maybe because there is more moderate religious involvement in government).
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Gay, Trans, Race, Books, etc. Are this issues only an American/USA problem are do these problems exist in other countries as well.
Before you ask "what problem", there are many threads here about issues and issues in the news almost daily about these things
Gays don't have a "problem." Some straight people, however, often have a problem accepting gays. Trans don't have a problem, but many Cis-types get downright jumpy about it. It's not hard being this race or that, this colour or that -- those are only problems for some people who aren't the same race or colour. It's hard for many of those "normals" to undestand why gays, trans, races and colours choose to be "the way they are" when with just a little effort they could be just the same as they are.

And books are only a problem for those who are terrified they or their children might learn something they definitely don't want to know about.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
Is your media there as bad about making mountains out of mole hills like they are here in the US?
The UK press has a global reputation for being vile, vindictive, lapdogs. Our journalists spend the majority of time holding powerless individuals to account on behalf of the total scum that own the print and broadcast media.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
The UK press has a global reputation for being vile, vindictive, lapdogs. Our journalists spend the majority of time holding powerless individuals to account on behalf of the total scum that own the print and broadcast media.
I’m a little curious about what legal standards the UK (and indeed my own country’s) media has compared to the US.
Apart from the standardised forecast I mean.
Since that’s just bluntly stating the stories that happened lol

Because I don’t know. I often hear about how lax US standards are apparently. But we have news stations that are full of political propaganda as well :shrug:

I mean Murdoch does own some of your tabloids, does he not?
He owns plenty of ours lol
 
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