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Gender Apartheid

icehorse

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Heyo said:
It is simply realism. Every time, even with only good intentions, when anyone has tried to "save" people with cultural colonialism, it has ended up in a disaster. There are ways (sanctions) and authorities (UN), which are explicitly there for dealing with these issues, and it is OK to address your government to implement the sanctions.
I don't berate a business if I think they are acting unethical. I don't do business with them. When the unethical goes to criminal, I call the police.
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Would supporting / funding better education for women and girls around the world be considered "cultural colonialism" ?
 
Heyo

Heyo

Veteran Member
Brickjectivity said:
Please do not look to the UN to support rights. It does not and cannot, and that is obvious. What the UN should do is be honest. "Some of our members believe in human rights and some do not," instead of this obufiscating lie. It declares human rights? It has no authority to declare what is a right. It doesn't even believe in rights, only in saying what pleases (for now) the West.
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The UDHR was accepted by the general assembly of the UN. That is the right authority to do so. They also have the right to reprimand members who don't hold to what they have agreed to.
 
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wellwisher

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Ignatius A said:
Yet millions of American women and trans people come out in support of "Palestine". It's mind numbing how utterly illogical some people are.
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an anarchist said:
People that "come out in support of 'Palestine'" are against the genocide going on in Gaza.

Are you saying that the Gazan massacres are justified because of the negative traits of Islam? That's the implication I am reading from your post, so please correct me.

Is it "illogical" to be against bombing of civilians?
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Does it ever dawn on anyone that making women second class citizens, may be the reason for Hamas and other terrorist groups?

If one group is taught it can control another; Muslim men against women, this sense of entitled control can spill over into other places. As an analogy, say a mother spoils her son. This support for bad behavior can make her son act that way outside the family, since it is assumed acceptable. Being the overlord at home, makes the Muslim men seek to be overlords in geopolitical ways.

The Left is very shallow and does not play chess a few moves back and a few moves ahead, to see why we are, where we are. Right now you are also being told to forget about the past, in terms of VP Harris, so she is not associated with the various social disasters she helped to create. Common sense says you cannot ignore that past platform, or else you will not get a full picture of the reality of now. The people who complain the most of being victims; women and LBGTQ, support the victimizers of Muslim women. They must need each other; victims need victimizers so they have a reason to complain.

Many Muslim women do not mind that submissive role, with the good Muslim mothers teaching her sons to be abusive, to their future daughters in law. This is where the mothers in law, can control her son and get to be abusive; pecking order of abuse. To be able to keep the women down you need the older women to help reenforce the rules, for the younger people.
 
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Ignatius A

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icehorse said:
I mostly agree with you, i think the UN is corrupt, perhaps beyond repair.

But I was referring to a declaration that was created decades ago, in far less corrupt times :)
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I understand that but butting noses into other people's business is presumptuous. Look how upset people get about abortion in America but we think we can tell other cultures whats right or wrong?
 
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Ignatius A

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icehorse said:
I mostly agree with you, i think the UN is corrupt, perhaps beyond repair.

But I was referring to a declaration that was created decades ago, in far less corrupt times :)
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I understand that but butting noses into other people's business is presumptuous. Look how upset people get about abortion in America but we think we can tell other cultures whats right or wrong?
 
Father Heathen

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Ignatius A said:
Non but apparently you have no problem with those same people annilating jews.
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Trash logic. I oppose the killing of innocent civilians, regardless of who is doing it or to who it's being done to. No child deserves to die a violent death, or to witness the violent deaths of their family.
Ignatius A said:
As long as they want to fix the world of Jews in have no sympathy for them. Do you understand? I dont want to hear a bank robber whining that they got their pocket picked.
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Two wrongs don't make a right.
 
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Ignatius A

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Father Heathen said:
Trash logic. I oppose the killing of innocent civilians, regardless of who is doing it or to who it's being done to. No child deserves to die a violent death, or to witness the violent deaths of their family.

Two wrongs don't make a right.
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You oppose it do you? How many threads have you starting condemning Hamas for killing jews?

You're right but two wrongs arent always equivalent. I dont want to hear a bank robber whining he got he got his pocket picked. My sympathies don't stretch that far.
 
Father Heathen

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Ignatius A said:
You oppose it do you? How many threads have you starting condemning Hamas for killing jews?
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How many threads have you started condemning the monkey torture network? None? Yikes!
Ignatius A said:
You're right but two wrongs arent always equivalent. I dont want to hear a bank robber whining he got he got his pocket picked. My sympathies don't stretch that far.
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So what "bank" was "robbed" by Palestinian children? And "pick pocketing" is a pretty flippant analogy for their violent deaths.
 
icehorse

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Heyo said:
Only when it is done against the will of the population/government of a given country.
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Well then, if some cultures systematically break the Golden Rule against women, then cultural colonialism is a good thing.
 
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