Really?We can't fight what we have no control over.
Misogyny is bad....we all get that.
But you made the debate more about Israel
& Palestinians.
So the ten points I enumerated in the OP were all a smokescreen?
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Really?We can't fight what we have no control over.
Misogyny is bad....we all get that.
But you made the debate more about Israel
& Palestinians.
Claims of apathy are shown false by posts thatLol any
If anything I am apathetic...
Yes.Really?
They "defended their rights" on Oct 7 correct?Claims of apathy are shown false by posts that
are so hostile to Palestinians & any who defend
their rights. And for such fervent justification of
Israel's commission of genocide.
Our defense of Palestinian rights precededThey "defended their rights" on Oct 7 correct?
Our???? Very good. Maybe we're getting honest now.Our defense of Palestinian rights preceded
that day, & continues to this day.
Have you not noticed that I & manyOur????
I've been honest all along.Very good. Maybe we're getting honest now.
Palestinians?Did they commit war crimes in the defense of those rights on oct 7?
Did hamas commit war crimes in the defense of their rights on oct 7? Yes or no? They either did or they didn't?Have you not noticed that I & many
others here have defended the rights
of Palestinians in the face of Israel
killing, torturing, robbing, & starving
them?
I've been honest all along.
Give it a try.
Palestinians?
Not the civilians I speak of.
Are you still trying to justify genocide of all
Palestinians by painting them with that
dishonest broad brush?
You've stated as much several times in this thread.No that's not why
Did hamas commit war crimes in the defense of their rights on oct 7? Yes or no? They either did it didn't?
Did hamas commit war crimes in the defense of their rights on oct 7? Yes or no? They either did or they didn't?Well, this started over 100 years ago, so I reject your premisses for asking the questions and ask some other others. Then I could include the current time and ask relevant questions, but I would never limit it to the short past and the present.
Wow, the number is higher than even I thought:Hundreds of Palestinians in the West Bank have been killed,
Did hamas commit war crimes in the defense of their rights on oct 7? Yes or no? They either did or they didn't?
It's a legitimate question and your fear of answering it is obvious because you know the answer is "Yes".
It's apparently a game to you. If hamas was defending their rights on Oct 7, as has been suggested, and if they didnt commit any war crimes in the pursuit of those rights, it should be pretty easy to say, "No" but you cant so now its a "game".I am not going to play your game of you state the rules and you declare the win. That is actually not how the world works. In the big picture you and I mean nothing for the fate of Israel-Palestine.
So I still reject your framing and your rules for winning.
Here is some logic for you. From a fact follows nothing but the fact in a complex world. So if something is a fact, there is still the rest of the world to consider as relevant. That is you problem. You think you win by reducing the world down to one fact. You don't!!!
It's apparently a game to you. If hamas was defending their rights on Oct 7, as has been suggested, and if they didnt commit any war crimes in the pursuit of those rights, it should be pretty easy to say, "No" but you cant so NOW its a game.
Something always follows from an isolated fact, you know that and that's why you're so afraid to answer. You want to isolate the actions of Hamas but not Israel. If hamas didn't commit war crimes on oct 7 it should be easy to say so but you can't. Its hilarious to observe this.The problem is that nothing follows from any isolated fact in a complex world.
You don't understand that, right?
Something always follows from an isolated fact, you know that and that's why you're so afraid to answer. You want to isolate the actions of Hamas but not Israel. If hamas didn't commit war crimes on oct 7 it should be easy to say so but you can't. Its hilarious to observe this.
Hamas either did or did or did not commit crimes in defense of their "rights" on Oct 7. You know they did and this pathetic defense of their doing so is based on the wrongs previously perpetrated against them by Israel. You're perfectly fine with hamas doing it but not Israel.Nothing follows as such from a yes or no answer to your question. Different people would react differently to both answers. You can observe it in this thread and other ones.
You are trying to frame a certain context and I don't do that anymore as per how you want it. That leads nowhere. Rather I point out what it is you are trying to do.