Gender Apartheid

[mikkel_the_dane]

Nope, sorry. One time, that should be sufficient.

Yeah, and I have already experienced at least one example of your lack of solid evidence, where I read through a whole lot of text you gave and you didn't actually give evidence for what you claimed, so in practice that is not a loss. So I just ignore when you claim something without evidence.

 

[icehorse]

Anyway folks @Saint Frankenstein and @mikkel_the_dane -

This thread is about gender apartheid, not Gaza, thanks.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

strawman, and a weak one at that.

That is not a strawman, because your claim is this: arguments based on solid, logical, honest foundations.
I just noted that as I know it for now, nobody have ever been able to do that. So you just actually do it and then I will admit it is possible.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Anyway folks @Saint Frankenstein and @mikkel_the_dane -

This thread is about gender apartheid, not Gaza, thanks.

Well, I will do as you ask if you tell it to all the people involved in the Gaza debate. Until then I consider it irrelevant.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Anyway folks @Saint Frankenstein and @mikkel_the_dane -

This thread is about gender apartheid, not Gaza, thanks.

I didn't start that discussion. This thread was too far gone by the time I showed up.

 

[Ignatius A]

Hooray!

So, we're starting to find common ground. Israel CANNOT just respond however it wants and we just need to agree on where those limits are.

Let's start with an obvious one: actions designed to disproportionately harm civilian rather than military targets. Should they be okay or not?


Which Hamas apologists? Can you quote anyone here expressing support for Hamas? Anyone here who has said their actions are justified? Where?

Meanwhile, I can find multiple quotes of you explicitly stating that war crimes against civilians are justified.

Yes people are justified to respond IN KIND. Since it is the goal of hamas to eliminate Israel, Israel is justified to reply IN KIND. What I dont want to hear are rabid genocidal maniacs complaining they the victims of genocide. You are a hamas apologist.

 

[Ignatius A]

How did you reach this conclusion?

By your post.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Until you can how me what steps hamas took on oct 7 to avoiding killing jews who they claim to have no problem with, I am not the least bit interested in your whining about killing civilians.

Nobody you are conversing with has said this.

We're currently discussing YOUR hypocritical views on the matter.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Hamas declared war on Israel. Civilians get killed in wars.

In WWII, many more German civilians died than British citizens. Was Britian wrong to kill all those German civilians?

Yes.

 

[Ignatius A]

Nobody you are conversing with has said this.

We're currently discussing YOUR hypocritical views on the matter.

Great then we agree, rabid genocidal maniacs have no justification to complain that they are the victims of genocide. I LOVE agreement

 

[SkepticThinker]

Yes people are justified to respond IN KIND. Since it is the goal of hamas to eliminate Israel, Israel is justified to reply IN KIND. What I dont want to hear are rabid genocidal maniacs complaining they the victims of genocide. You are a hamas apologist.

This poster has repeatedly condemned Hamas and their terrorist actions.

On what basis do you make the claim they are a 'hamas apologist" ... ???

 

[SkepticThinker]

Great then we agree, rabid genocidal maniacs have no justification to complain that they are the victims of genocide. I LOVE agreement

I agree that nobody should be committing war crimes.

I agree that it's not okay to commit war crimes, if someone has committed them against you. That's how the world falls apart.
The good guys are supposed to be better than the bad guys, not stoop to their level.

 

[Koldo]

By your post.

Explain the thought process behind reaching that conclusion.

 

[Koldo]

Great then we agree, rabid genocidal maniacs have no justification to complain that they are the victims of genocide. I LOVE agreement

Great. Now what about all the others that are not rabid genocidal maniacs that used to live in Gaza before they were killed by Israel? What about their families? Are they not supposed to complain either?

 

[Ignatius A]

I agree that nobody should be committing war crimes.

I agree that it's not okay to commit war crimes, if someone has committed them against you. That's how the world falls apart.
The good guys are supposed to be better than the bad guys, not stoop to their level.

Maybe they are supposed be better if it the choice is between destruction or stoop i hope they pick stopping over destruction.

What should Israel's response be? A strongly worded letter?

 

[Ignatius A]

Explain the thought process behind reaching that conclusion.

Read your post

 

[Ignatius A]

Great. Now what about all the others that are not rabid genocidal maniacs that used to live in Gaza before they were killed by Israel? What about their families? Are they not supposed to complain either?

Maybe they should complain to hamas and tell hamas to stop killing israeli citizens because every time you idiots kill Israeli civilians the jews kill us. But they won't do that because their goal isn't peace its the destruction of israel.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Maybe they are supposed be better if it the choice is between destruction or stoop i hope they pick stopping over destruction.

Is that the choice though? We've already been over how Hamas doesn't have the means to destroy Israel.

So to be clear, if the "choice" is your own destruction, then you can commit war crimes wantonly, as you see fit? Is that your stance now?

What should Israel's response be? A strongly worded letter?

Fight back without committing war crimes.

 

[Ignatius A]

Is that the choice though? We've already been over how Hamas doesn't have the means to destroy Israel.

So to be clear, if the "choice" is your own destruction, then you can commit war crimes wantonly, as you see fit? Is that your stance now?

Fight back without committing war crimes.

Yes it is the choice as hamas seeks the destruction of Israel. They may not but they certainly possess the ability to kill innocent Israelis. And arent very bright attacking a superior enemy.

Where did I say or infer "wantonly". Do you people do this crap on purpose. Go back and see if you can decipher what I actually said who about israels response.

Describe that for me in detail.

 

[Koldo]

Maybe they should complain to hamas and tell hamas to stop killing israeli citizens because every time you idiots kill Israeli civilians the jews kill us. But they won't do that because their goal isn't peace its the destruction of israel.

Because obviously a powerless civilian has the power to enact a massive change, right?