Koldo
Outstanding Member
My post doesn't contain any explanations concerning your thought process. Are you going to keep evading my request?
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My post doesn't contain any explanations concerning your thought process. Are you going to keep evading my request?
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Palestinian support for Hamas has increased. Seems they are all on the same page. If you were in charge how many civilian deaths would you accept before you tried a different tactic other than killing your enemies civilians?
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
You mean not giving you the answer you want? I don't work for you so want you want isnt relevant to me.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
So if they don't actually have the ability to destroy Israel, then it's NOT "the choice is between destruction or stoop i hope they pick stopping over destruction."
That's what you've been doing this entire thread. Wait, you don't like it?
Don't. Commit. War. Crimes.
Follow. The. Rules. Of. War.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Sure it is because there are enough bad players in the ME who could back hamas and Hamas has no compunction about killing Israeli civilians. How many dead civilians should Israel be expected to accept?
So you can't show where I said if suggested "wantonly" killing. Figured. Don't you feel better admitting it?
Which are? Send a strongly worded letter to hamas?
Koldo
Outstanding Member
It is of no suprise that you don't want to show your thought process behind that post. Since I would easily point out where it went wrong.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
All? What's your source that they are all on the same page?
I wouldn't ever consider the mass killing of civilians as an alternative.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
I doubt it
Koldo
Outstanding Member
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
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Palestinian poll shows a rise in Hamas support and close to 90% wanting US-backed Abbas to resign
The findings signal more difficulties for the Biden administration’s postwar vision for Gaza and raise questions about Israel’s goal of ending Hamas’ capabilities.
So you would do what exactly?
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
You haven't said anything so I guess I'm home free.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
When you say "in kind", what do you mean? Do you mean "they committed war crimes against civilians, so we are justified in committing war crimes against civilians"? Or, do you mean a response that is reasonable and proportionate to the threat and doesn't intentionally or disproportionately harm non-involved parties in accordance with international law?
Important question.
Again, do you therefore believe that it is justified for Israel to respond by eliminating Gaza, including the millions of civilians who live there, or in eliminating Hamas ONLY?
Again, important question.
Since I have repeatedly called Hamas genocidal terrorists and perpetrators of war crimes, you are now spreading an explicit and knowing falsehood about me, and you should retract this statement.
Meanwhile, you are explicitly justifying war crimes.
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ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Hence why you dismiss dozens of sources without basis when they report things you don't want to hear despite the fact you didn't read any of them.
Totally logical and honest, and not at all the exact opposite of both of those things.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Keep those strawman arguments coming
Can you make an actual argument as per logic, solid foundational reasoning and back up your claim?
Gaza / Israel is an amazingly complex situation. We will never solve it if we start with false claims like "genocide" or "apartheid".
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
So you are a we that include the International Court of Justice as per this: The Court added that Israel's legislation and measures violate the international prohibition on racial segregation and apartheid. The ICJ mandated Israel to end its occupation, dismantle its settlements, provide full reparations to Palestinian victims and facilitate the return of displaced people.
Now I agree that there are different opinions on this, but you are not with a solid, logical foundation a we as you use it.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
What are you even talking about?
Koldo
Outstanding Member
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Palestinian poll shows a rise in Hamas support and close to 90% wanting US-backed Abbas to resign
The findings signal more difficulties for the Biden administration’s postwar vision for Gaza and raise questions about Israel’s goal of ending Hamas’ capabilities.apnews.com
What do you think your source is saying?
Close off the borders with Gaza, improve the defenses, find the ones responsible for the terrorism...
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
That's not how a strawman argument works.Keep those strawman arguments coming
Also, it's literally what you did. I presented dozens of Wikipedia pages citing war crimes carried out by the IDF and Israeli government in Gaza and the West Bank, and (LESS THAN TWO MINUTES LATER) you wrote that you dismissed them all because, as you implied, they "misused the term genocide" (despite the fact that you couldn't possibly have read any of them in that time, so you have no idea if they did or did not).
You're bad at debates. And stop misusing logical fallacies.
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