Genetic Code is INFORMATION: Proof of Intelligent Design

[ArtieE]

And here's another thing:

If I assume - on a daily basis - that instruction books don't write themselves, why am i making an exception when it come to DNA?
If I assume - on a daily basis - that things like cars and boats cannot be compressed into a single point, why do i make an exception when it comes to the big bang theory?

hint: my own prejudices against God.

John 15: But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: 'They hated me without reason.'

Does your holy book say that meteorologists and seismologists hate Thor and Poseidon too since they are not included in their theories on how thunder and earthquakes come about?

 

[ArtieE]

I'm from the "show me" state: Show me something solid and confirmable in some way.

Me too. Show me some gods.

 

[FearGod]

1. Do I assume on a daily basis - as I go about my business - that earthquakes are created by Poseidon? No.
2. Do i assume on a daily basis - as i go about my business - that thunder and lightning is created by Thor? No.
3. Do I assume on a daily basis - as I go about my business - that the universe was created by a god? No.

I assume all these have natural causes until somebody can show otherwise.

If only by nature without a conscious designer then what you'll see in a daily basis is the chaos,
that if you can still be a living being that can think and analyze, as a product of the inanimate, the unconscious matter
of this universe, you'll be not better than a stone, the prove is in your mind, no one have to show you the reality, you can
see it in your mind and in your heart, accept God for awhile and try to find him, I'm sure then that you'll find him, don't think
of God as Poseidon or Zeus...etc, just think of God as the creator that you don't know and he'll let you know and not me or
anybody on this earth.

 

[ArtieE]

If only by nature without a conscious designer then what you'll see in a daily basis is the chaos

But that is logically impossible then your conscious designer couldn't exist in the first place there would be only chaos. I can't believe in the logically impossible.

 

[FearGod]

But that is logically impossible then your conscious designer couldn't exist in the first place there would be only chaos. I can't believe in the logically impossible.

There will be chaos without a conscious director, you can't start a project by chaos.

 

[ArtieE]

There will be chaos without a conscious director, you can't start a project by chaos.

But FearGod, if there was a conscious director and not chaos to begin with no conscious director was originally required to create order from chaos in the first place.

 

[FearGod]

But FearGod, if there was a conscious director and not chaos to begin with no conscious director was originally required to create order from chaos in the first place.

Chaos will be always chaos, can we make in real life a successful project by the chaos or we
need plans and studies before starting the project.

Starting by chaos simply will be always chaos.

 

[Shad]

Next time you feel sick don’t go to the doctor then, just pray. It’s just another standard you can choose from anyway, right?

I believe you have misread me. I am not advocating alternative standards are valid nor sound but exist and are believed. I am pointing out that people are taught a number of standards over their lifetime that are not compatible with each other and/or even viable within specific fields of science. People will attempt to resolve this issue rather than abandon a belief they have held for a majority of their life-time. It is not about scientific discovery, it is about resolving mental and religious issues.

 

[ArtieE]

Chaos will be always chaos, can we make in real life a successful project by the chaos or we
need plans and studies before starting the project.

Starting by chaos simply will be always chaos.

But you say there never was chaos to begin with you say there was always a god and a god isn't chaos is it? And if you claim a god can exist naturally why not everything else?

 

[jeager106]

What is the constant need for proof of a deity?

One definition of faith.
That which cannot be proved nor disproved.
PROVE there is no God.
Thank you for your responses.
Your mileage my vary.

 

[jeager106]

I believe you have misread me. I am not advocating alternative standards are valid nor sound but exist and are believed. I am pointing out that people are taught a number of standards over their lifetime that are not compatible with each other and/or even viable within specific fields of science. People will attempt to resolve this issue rather than abandon a belief they have held for a majority of their life-time. It is not about scientific discovery, it is about resolving mental and religious issues.

Oh pleeeease!
"it is about resolving mental and religious issues."

Mental and religious issue can not be, nor ever will be, resolved.
Better to say attitudes will never be resolved.
40,000 denominations of Christianity ALL reading the same book.
From the Westboro Baptists who preach God hates homosexuals to the Pentecostals that play with rattlesnakes.
FRINGE religions will always exist.
15% of the Muslim world believe in or support VIOLENT jihad.
Cure that!
Recall when a group of Muslims burned a capture Muslim pilot alive on world television and cheered
while watching him burn to death.
Does Islam preach that?
I certainly hope not.
Google crimes committed by Christians in the name of God/Jesus.
Shocking.

 

[FearGod]

But you say there never was chaos to begin with you say there was always a god and a god isn't chaos is it? And if you claim a god can exist naturally why not everything else?

When you say God exist naturally then what do you mean by naturally?

 

[ArtieE]

When you say God exist naturally then what do you mean by naturally?

If gods weren't created what other options are there than that they exist naturally? Do you know of a third option?

 

[FearGod]

If gods weren't created what other options are there than that they exist naturally? Do you know of a third option?

We agree that such a thing should always be existing, so how such a thing will be naturally created.
I know it's very hard to understand it but no escape from the notion that this thing should be always existing
beyond time and space.

 

[McBell]

We agree that such a thing should always be existing, so how such a thing will be naturally created.
I know it's very hard to understand it but no escape from the notion that this thing should be always existing
beyond time and space.

So if your god could have always existed, why can't the universe have always existed?

 

[ArtieE]

We agree that such a thing should always be existing, so how such a thing will be naturally created.
I know it's very hard to understand it but no escape from the notion that this thing should be always existing
beyond time and space.

And if this thing wasn't created it must be natural for it to exist and if it's natural for it to exist then other things can exist naturally too including us.

 

[FearGod]

And if this thing wasn't created it must be natural for it to exist and if it's natural for it to exist then other things can exist naturally too including us.

No, we have a cause including me and you and the universe that we're in, the thing that always existing
doesn't have a cause.

 

[FearGod]

So if your god could have always existed, why can't the universe have always existed?

The universe is about 14 billions years old.

 

[McBell]

The universe is about 14 billions years old.

God is about 6.3 billion years old.

 

[FearGod]

God is about 6.3 billion years old.

A fixed date means not always existing, so no