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German politician says: Ukraine will not win this war

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
This is the video:

And a month earlier, the Italian Minister of Defense said: Nobody has ever thought Ukraine could defeat Russia.

 
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
These comments in Italian and in German show how much Zely is loved in Europe.

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PureX

Veteran Member
If the objective was to annex the four region, Russia has already won.
But now he can't hold onto it. Which is always the story for the invaders. All he "annexed" was a battle over territory that he can't use, can't control, and a battle that he can't win and can't stop fighting without giving up. All he won for himself was a great big fat and very costly mess.
That's for sure.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
But now he can't hold onto it. Which is always the story for the invaders. All he "annexed" was a battle over territory that he can't use, can't control, and a battle that he can't win and can't stop fighting without giving up. All he won for himself was a great big fat and very costly mess.
Are you speaking of Putin?
Because rumors say that Putin is one of the least pro-war in Russia.
The Donbas War started in 2014...so he waited 8 years before invading.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Got the user on ignore, is it a BSW or AfD Russian agent saying this?

I put part of the video description into Google Translate and got this:

TV DUEL: "Totally unrealistic! Ukraine will not win this war!" - Sahra Wagenknecht In the TV duel, the party leaders of AfD and BSW, Alice Weidel and Sahra Wagenknecht, met live on German television for the first time. The WELT TV duel was moderated by editor-in-chief Jan Philipp Burgard. When asked about the war in Ukraine, Wagenknecht was very clear!

Original text:

TV-DUELL: "Völlig unrealistisch! Die Ukraine wird diesen Krieg nicht gewinnen!" - Sahra Wagenknecht Im TV-Duell trafen die Parteivorsitzenden von AfD und BSW, Alice Weidel und Sahra Wagenknecht, zum ersten Mal live im deutschen Fernsehen aufeinander. Das WELT TV-Duell wurde von Chefredakteur Jan Philipp Burgard moderiert. Bei der Frage zum Ukraine -Krieg wird Wagenknecht sehr deutlich!
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
This is the video:

And a month earlier, the Italian Minister of Defense said: Nobody has ever thought Ukraine could defeat Russia.


I suppose it depends on what "winning the war" actually means. I think both sides are going to end up losing, regardless of which side actually "wins." Even if they win, they still lose.

Even the NATO countries have been under financial and economic pressures. Granted, it's not as bad as facing the ravages of war, but some NATO countries seem to be realizing that they can't really afford to finance this indefinitely over the long haul. There has to be an end, one way or the other.
 
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