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Germany is set on fire

dust1n

Zindīq
Heard about it earlier today. It's in our media.

Problems between Greeks and Germans is way out of my scope though.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Obvious Troll topic is obvious.
Hundreds of thousand protestors? lol what?


Yesterday the new HQ of the ECB in Frankfurt was opened. Because of this Blockupy had a demonstration but the Black Block thought it might be neat to also attend. And so they started their usual rampage.

And there are no news about it?
Do tell.

BBC News - Germany riot targets new ECB headquarters in Frankfurt
BBC News - Frankfurt protests: Fires target new ECB headquarters
At least 350 people arrested in protest at ECB HQ in Frankfurt | Business | The Guardian

Oh and as far as the German Media is concerned there are over 2000 articles listed on Google News...
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
Hundreds of thousands protestors are destroying Germany but there is no news about these events on media . Just some Russian and Turkish news agencies.
There is one obvious reason why nobody is reporting "Hundreds of thousands protesters are destroying Germany". What actually happened in Frankfurt yesterday (which I can only assume you were referring to) was reported though, certainly here in the UK and obviously in Germany too.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Hundreds of thousands protestors are destroying Germany but there is no news about these events on media . Just some Russian and Turkish news agencies.
Uh-huh. Right. See, when someone says "Germany on fire", I think of stuff like Dresden or Hamburg. What you're (inaccurately) describing is a small-ish to medium-sized protest in Frankfurt am Main.
 

NoX

Active Member
Uh-huh. Right. See, when someone says "Germany on fire", I think of stuff like Dresden or Hamburg. What you're (inaccurately) describing is a small-ish to medium-sized protest in Frankfurt am Main.

Smallish to medium sized :p see you soon :eek:
 

NoX

Active Member
290 persons injured, 700 persons taken into custody, 1300 cars set on fire, during the smallish to medium sized clashes in last 2 days. :neutral:
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
290 persons injured, 700 persons taken into custody, 1300 cars set on fire, during the smallish to medium sized clashes in last 2 days. :neutral:

No that was a parking dispute between neighbors. :D

protests-rage-on-in-frankfurt-germany-1.jpg
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
290 persons injured, 700 persons taken into custody, 1300 cars set on fire, during the smallish to medium sized clashes in last 2 days. :neutral:
Where are you getting your numbers from? They seem somewhat exaggerated based on what I'm hearing from Germany directly.

The facts are that there was a peaceful protest planned in Frankfurt on Wednesday (which did go ahead, with around 10K-20K reportedly in attendance). Earlier that day there was outbreaks of violence and arson associated with that protest (though the organisers obviously distanced themselves from it). I've not heard of anything other issues since Wednesday.

So, your initial claims of hundreds of thousands and Germany on fire still appear grossly exaggerated which doesn't add confidence to anything else you might claim (especially if you don't acknowledge your previous errors).
 

NoX

Active Member
Where are you getting your numbers from? They seem somewhat exaggerated based on what I'm hearing from Germany directly.

The facts are that there was a peaceful protest planned in Frankfurt on Wednesday (which did go ahead, with around 10K-20K reportedly in attendance). Earlier that day there was outbreaks of violence and arson associated with that protest (though the organisers obviously distanced themselves from it). I've not heard of anything other issues since Wednesday.

So, your initial claims of hundreds of thousands and Germany on fire still appear grossly exaggerated which doesn't add confidence to anything else you might claim (especially if you don't acknowledge your previous errors).

Actually they are quite professional to hide real numbers about themselves :kissingclosed: its always = what they say x 10 :tongueout: I got my numbers from Turkish media. :heavycheck:

Are you German ?
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
Actually they are quite professional to hide real numbers about themselves :kissingclosed: its always = what they say x 10 :tongueout:
Who is "they"? It's certainly true that figures aren't always accurately reported (in either direction), which is why it's usually better to go to reliable sources closest to the source. Regardless of the numbers, your claim of "Germany burning" and the idea that this is something happening across several days remain simply false. If you remain unwilling (or incapable) of accepting that, you're not worth discussing anything with.

I got my numbers from Turkish media. :heavycheck:
Why not check a wider cross-section of media then?

Are you German ?
Only a little bit but I have friends in Germany who themselves were hearing from people actually in Frankfurt. They know what actually happened because they saw it so can put the accuracy of news reporting in context and the reports I'm referring to are apparently largely consistent with what they saw.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Oh god what a retarded thread.

No one is rejecting that the Black Block(does OP even know who they are? probably not) went into riot mode and started to burn stuff including Police cars.
What is being rejected are the "hundreds of thousands of protestors" given by the OP.

First of all the really bad stuff all happened on Wednesday, in the night to thursday the police only had some minor stuff going on.

Blockupy claims there have been 25.000 people protesting and "protesting. The Police says there were about 17.000. Which is nowhere near the "hundreds of thousands" of people given by the OP.

500 protestors had been taken into custody by the police.

150 police officers were injured of around 10.000.

How many cars have been burned has not been disclosed yet. Though there is a funny picture in the german social media where a Mercedes Benz is left untouched but instead they burn two Opel which is a car brand that is often the target of ridicule.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Actually they are quite professional to hide real numbers about themselves :kissingclosed: its always = what they say x 10 :tongueout: I got my numbers from Turkish media. :heavycheck:

Are you German ?
lol. Where is your proof that "it is always what they say x 10? Sounds like another conspiracy theory to me. Can you prove it?
 

NoX

Active Member
Who is "they"? It's certainly true that figures aren't always accurately reported (in either direction), which is why it's usually better to go to reliable sources closest to the source. Regardless of the numbers, your claim of "Germany burning" and the idea that this is something happening across several days remain simply false. If you remain unwilling (or incapable) of accepting that, you're not worth discussing anything with.

I'm talking about the government.

Why not check a wider cross-section of media then?

Actually Turkish media sources are quite wider, there are about 350 million Turkish or Turkish originated persons all over the World. I also looked at Russian media, I think together both of them, my media network reaches enough width :)

Only a little bit but I have friends in Germany who themselves were hearing from people actually in Frankfurt. They know what actually happened because they saw it so can put the accuracy of news reporting in context and the reports I'm referring to are apparently largely consistent with what they saw.

There are Turkish groups in protestors and about 90.000 Russian person in the Frankfurt , I dont even mention Turks in Frankfurt. :rolleyes: You have friends who have heard about the events, we have friends who are in the events :p
 
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