Getting hooked on The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch

[Jainarayan]

Lately I’ve been drawn to tv shows like Paranormal Caught on Camera, Hauntings and a few others on, of all channels, Travel Channel. Of course there’s the Grandaddy of them all, Ancient Aliens which is a decidedly guilty pleasure. My latest is The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. The latter two are on the History Channel.

Has anyone seen it? If so, is it all staged or is there something actually going on, with genuine phenomena and investigations? One thing that makes me lean towards it being a genuine investigation is the participation of Dr. Travis Taylor, an astrophysicist, aerospace engineer and author of science fiction and science fact. The guy has some solid credentials.

So is it genuine, laughable, just entertainment... or what? Personally I think what they’re exploring and investigating is plausible... inter-dimensional portals, otherworldly occurrences, etc.

 

[Rival]

This place is crazy. I have watched multiple videos on it and it never becomes old. Skinwalkers freak me out anyway but this place is beyond, with not just the skinwalker but just about every other creepy/extraterrestrial thing as well.

No idea what's going on though.

 

[Jainarayan]

This place is crazy. I have watched multiple videos on it and it never becomes old. Skinwalkers freak me out anyway but this place is beyond, with not just the skinwalker but just about every other creepy/extraterrestrial thing as well.

Right!? Creepy and creeped-out are definitely the words to use. The ghosts and spirits don’t creep me out as much as the shadow people, wherever I read about or see some description. That genuinely makes my hair stand up and skin crawl. Another one that creeps me out is Aliens in Alaska. Alaska is so freaking remote and unexplored to begin with. There’s a commercial with the governor of Alaska inviting tourists to come and see the wild beauty of Alaska. Oh sure, and the aliens, UFOs and unexplainable creatures? I don’t freaking think so. ROFL.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Lately I’ve been drawn to tv shows like Paranormal Caught on Camera, Hauntings and a few others on, of all channels, Travel Channel. Of course there’s the Grandaddy of them all, Ancient Aliens which is a decidedly guilty pleasure. My latest is The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. The latter two are on the History Channel.

Has anyone seen it? If so, is it all staged or is there something actually going on, with genuine phenomena and investigations? One thing that makes me lean towards it being a genuine investigation is the participation of Dr. Travis Taylor, an astrophysicist, aerospace engineer and author of science fiction and science fact. The guy has some solid credentials.

So is it genuine, laughable, just entertainment... or what? Personally I think what they’re exploring and investigating is plausible... inter-dimensional portals, otherworldly occurrences, etc.

It's just entertainment.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's just entertainment.

Yeah. It should be long past due we can sue History Channel for false advertisement as they've gotten so far away from actual history and real events it's wrong to refer to a lot of it as "history."

 

[Gargovic Malkav]

Not familiar with the channel but I love scary stories.
I try to keep an open mind when people claim to have experienced something paranormal, but I always think of reasons why ghosts, aliens, or cryptids may have nothing to do with it.

This talk makes me want to listen to scary stories on youtube again.
It's been awhile.

 

[George-ananda]

So is it genuine, laughable, just entertainment... or what? Personally I think what they’re exploring and investigating is plausible... inter-dimensional portals, otherworldly occurrences, etc.

I definitely think it is serious and important stuff.

The so-called 'skeptic community' (actually anti-paranormal/alien/cryptid community) is very strong in the media world and has done a consistent job of disparaging all such related stuff. They want us to feel anti-intellectual to be interested in any of this stuff.

In fact I would say some of the people that work in these fields are so professional that to just ignore them is a type of science denial.

There's my thoughts.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yeah. It should be long past due we can sue History Channel for false advertisement as they've gotten so far away from actual history and real events it's wrong to refer to a lot of it as "history."

The legends are interesting though.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I definitely think it is serious and important stuff.

The so-called 'skeptic community' (actually anti-paranormal/alien/cryptid community) is very strong in the media world and has done a consistent job of disparaging all such related stuff. They want us to feel anti-intellectual to be interested in any of this stuff.

In fact I would say some of the people that work in these fields are so professional that to just ignore them is a type of science denial.

There's my thoughts.

If it's science then there ought to be science publications involved.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The legends are interesting though.

Definitely. The legends and lores are fascinating. But it needs to be made clear that's what it is. I've seen them doing things like portraying Biblical stories and UFO conspiracies without a hint or suggestion of dramatization or its not real.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I definitely think it is serious and important stuff.

The so-called 'skeptic community' (actually anti-paranormal/alien/cryptid community) is very strong in the media world and has done a consistent job of disparaging all such related stuff. They want us to feel anti-intellectual to be interested in any of this stuff.

In fact I would say some of the people that work in these fields are so professional that to just ignore them is a type of science denial.

There's my thoughts.

It wasn't the skeptical community but decades of failures amd turning up nothing but poor methodology that prompted universities and governments to cease funding, experiments, and programs into things like ESP and telekinesis.

 

[George-ananda]

If it's science then there ought to be science publications involved.

And I am sure there are in those fields.

 

[Twilight Hue]

And I am sure there are in those fields.

But not Nature or Scientific American?

 

[George-ananda]

It wasn't the skeptical community but decades of failures amd turning up nothing but poor methodology that prompted universities and governments to cease funding, experiments, and programs into things like ESP and telekinesis.

Wrong, there have been scores of successful experiments and they continue to this day.


“After a century of increasingly sophisticated investigations and more than a thousand controlled studies with combined odds against chance of 10 to the 104th power to 1, there is now strong evidence that psi phenomena exist. While this is an impressive statistic, all it means is that the outcomes of these experiments are definitely not due to coincidence. We’ve considered other common explanations like selective reporting and variations in experimental quality, and while those factors do moderate the overall results, there can be no little doubt that overall something interesting is going on. It seems increasingly likely that as physics continues to redefine our understanding of the fabric of reality, a theoretical outlook for a rational explanation for psi will eventually be established

Dr. Dean Radin

 

[George-ananda]

But not Nature or Scientific American?

I'm not even sure about that but that there is a prejudice and dislike against paranormal/alien/crypto stuff as reported at Skinwalker Ranch among many scientists is certain.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

While this is an impressive statistic,

So impressive I doubt it.

I'm not even sure about that but that there is a prejudice against paranormal/alien/crypto stuff as reported at Skinwalker Ranch among many scientists is certain.

It's because so many forget what the U in UFO stands for.
I believe there probably is life in other planets. I'd be more surprised and stunned to learn we are utterly alone in the universe than to learn the universe is filled with life.
But when we see something up in the sky and we don't know what it is, we must remember U does not mean Alien or Extraterrestrial. It means unidentified. Sometimes it's insects buzzing around that get reported as alien spacecraft (even the X-Files mentioned this one).

 

[George-ananda]

So impressive I doubt it.

It's because so many forget what the U in UFO stands for.
I believe there probably is life in other planets. I'd be more surprised and stunned to learn we are utterly alone in the universe than to learn the universe is filled with life.
But when we see something up in the sky and we don't know what it is, we must remember U does not mean Alien or Extraterrestrial. It means unidentified. Sometimes it's insects buzzing around that get reported as alien spacecraft (even the X-Files mentioned this one).

Well most of us seriously interested people do not forget what the 'U' stands for.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Well most of us seriously interested people do not forget what the 'U' stands for.

It stands for Unidentified.
That is no grounds to assume extraterrestrial.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Sometimes it's insects buzzing around that get reported as alien spacecraft (even the X-Files mentioned this one).

It's also highly classified military technology. That's what Area 51 really is - a test base for experimental technology. The alien crap seems to be a coverup for that. That's not the only one, either.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's also highly classified military technology. That's what Area 51 really is - a test base for experimental technology. The alien crap seems to be a coverup for that. That's not the only one, either.

As far as I can tell, it's not even a coverup. The government just denied the existence of Area 51 until recently.
The alien stuff is more others who want to believe too much and inserted it there and have endlessly insisted it must be there.