Girl, 6, Handcuffed in school because of temper tantrum.

[dust1n]

PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- A Port St. Lucie first-grade student was handcuffed and committed to a mental health facility because of her classroom behavior, and her parents are furious that the school took such extreme measures.

Mickey Shalansky explained Wednesday what he said happened to his 6-year-old daughter at Parkway Elementary. "She couldn't put her in two handcuffs because her wrists are that small, so she put them both in the same handcuff and left marks on my daughter's arms," Shalansky told WPBF 25 News' Bob Kaple.But a St. Lucie County Sheriff's Office report paints a much different picture.

Deputies said his daughter, Haley, got upset and stormed out her classroom when her teacher asked her to do something. The report said it then escalated into a temper tantrum in the principal's office.





According to the incident report, a deputy said Haley was out of control. It said she "kicked the wall, went over to the desk and threw the calculator, electric pencil sharpener, telephone, container of writing utensils and other objects across the desk."

She was then handcuffed.

"I don't think it should have had to come to this -- you know, to put a little girl, 6 years old, 37 pounds in handcuffs and take her away in a police car," Shalansky said.

Even worse is what happened the next day, Haley's parents said.

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[dogsgod]

The police are in control now.

 

[Smoke]

Who cares? If your kid is completely out of control and you can't even manage to make it to the school to talk to anybody about it, somebody else is going to end up taking action. When I was in first grade the teacher would have spanked a kid like that, but that's out of the question now, so what are they supposed to do?

The problem isn't that this brat was restrained, the problem is that her parents think that's the problem. As far as I'm concerned, they should be ashamed to go to the press with this story.

 

[dawny0826]

Who cares? If your kid is completely out of control and you can't even manage to make it to the school to talk to anybody about it, somebody else is going to end up taking action. When I was in first grade the teacher would have spanked a kid like that, but that's out of the question now, so what are they supposed to do?

The problem isn't that this brat was restrained, the problem is that her parents think that's the problem. As far as I'm concerned, they should be ashamed to go to the press with this story.

I totally agree with you.

 

[Father Heathen]

That's the problem with parents and children these days. No proper rearing or discipline and the rest of society has to deal with their spoiled, rude, disrespectful, and foul mannered brats. Makes me want to rip out uteri Mortal Kombat style.

 

[Panda]

Who cares? If your kid is completely out of control and you can't even manage to make it to the school to talk to anybody about it, somebody else is going to end up taking action. When I was in first grade the teacher would have spanked a kid like that, but that's out of the question now, so what are they supposed to do?

The problem isn't that this brat was restrained, the problem is that her parents think that's the problem. As far as I'm concerned, they should be ashamed to go to the press with this story.

Just have to say I agree with you here.

 

[dust1n]

Who cares? If your kid is completely out of control and you can't even manage to make it to the school to talk to anybody about it, somebody else is going to end up taking action. When I was in first grade the teacher would have spanked a kid like that, but that's out of the question now, so what are they supposed to do?

The problem isn't that this brat was restrained, the problem is that her parents think that's the problem. As far as I'm concerned, they should be ashamed to go to the press with this story.

Read the article.

The next day, the police took the kid off school grounds to a mental ward.

 

[Smoke]

Read the article.

The next day, the police took the kid off school grounds to a mental ward.

I read it before I commented, and I stand by what I said. These two idiots have been letting their kid run berserk -- probably encouraging it. They couldn't make it to the school to talk about their kid's behavioral problems, but suddenly they have time to talk to the press. "There is absolutely nothing wrong my child." Well, if there's nothing wrong with your child, then there's something way the hell wrong with your parenting.

If these people don't like the way the school deals with their little monster, they could always try dealing with her themselves, instead of writing her unacceptable behavior off as "a temper problem."

Sorry if I sound cruel. But with parenting like this, the kid will need a mental ward for real someday.

 

[Kerr]

Handcuff a kid at that age? That is just wrong. I know I did worse things then her, including biting my teachers and tearing my school books apart. Have a memory of jumping a classmate for no reason (probably happened many times) and I threw a book shelf on the floor. What helped me was that I had good and patient parents and that everyone was understanding rather then condemning. But then again, the school that I went to was not an ordinary school, it had good teachers that understood children like me and had a different way to approach things.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

Did anyone think maybe the parents should have been called instead? Geeze! Am I the only one here that thinks it is a parent's job, not the state's, to raise a child?

 

[DallasApple]

I dont see what other choice they had either if the girl wouldn't not calm down after a certain point.It doesn't sound like she had a momentary out burst it sounds like a tazmaniun devil tirade.

And I agree with others about the parents.Them minimizing her behavior and making her out to be a victim in all this is wrong.

The school should not be required to have to let her disrupt the school day and destroy school property because she is "only 6" and "only weighs 37 lbs".If the school had already made several attempts to meet with the parents and the fact just this article is talking aobout 2 days in a row she had a violent temper tantrum leads me to believe this was an ongoing problem.

And to Ker..I dont see how the little girl was/is being 'condemned".Im sure they arent keeping her in restraints.The handcuffs were a temporary solution to get that particular situation under control.

And the mental ward? Yeah..I woud be seriously concerned with the state of my childs mental and emotional health if they were routinely having fits like this.She's to young now but if she continues to be sheltered by her parents and her behavior minimized she wont land in a mental ward she will land in jail.

I knew a kid like this that was my childs class mate staring from kindergarten.About this girls age.I knew his mother through the years.She had this same attitude that there was nothing wrong with her child he just was "energetic" and had a "big personality' and 'boys will be boys" ..and why was the school always "picking on him"..

ALL the way up till in the 8th grade he was arrested for assaulting the dean..Even THEN the mother tried to have him (the dean) charged with assault for defending himself and he was cleared completey of any wrong doing.

My son like I said who knew him from age 6 even became one of his targets suddenly around that same time in the 8th grade to the point my son was permitted to use the staffs restroom for his protection untill they could investigate and take action.The bully was eventually put in "in school" suspension for that incident.

Its not about not 'understanding' kids "like you".The other children and the staff are just as important as 'kids like you'.In fact if the school didnt find a remedy to get the situation under control and it was disrupting my childs ability to focus on his school work or if he was at risk of being physically assaulted by a KNOWN problem child I would hold them liable.

If you "probably" jumped kids "many times" and the school was aware of it and you "jumped" my child I would demand you be expelled and if you kept doing it after that I would sue someone .

It reaches a point where its time for the one wreaking havok to be "understanding" that they will be accountable in ways that arent so pleasent for you.Just like the rest of us.

Love

Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

Did anyone think maybe the parents should have been called instead? Geeze! Am I the only one here that thinks it is a parent's job, not the state's, to raise a child?

It sounds like they did.The mother said she left work crying "what are they doing to my baby".

Maybe they were fed up that the parents werent responding to their request to take some sort of action to get the girl some help.could also be maybe they wanted a police wittness or police involvment so the parents couldnt sue or would lose if they tried for anything the principle did on her own to get the girl under control.

The mother said she missed the appointment to meet with them due to "car trouble'..Well she didnt have "trouble' getting to work because thats where she was when the little girl threw another fit for the second day in a row.Why was the mother at work the day after the first incident when the girl was handcuffed for the first time?If Im reading this article righ tthe little girl was handcufffed TWICE(two days in a row)..The second time is when the police took her to a mental health fascility..The mother had missed an appointment sounds like the day before the FIRST handcuffing incident..she said "due to car trouble" ..then the child was back in school the next day after the first handcuffing incident and the mother managed to make it to work.

If they were so outraged at the school calling police and the girl beign handcuffed and put in a police car where Im assuming she went home that day ..why in the hell werent the parents up at the school the next morning instead of dropping her off back at school and going to work?

Love

Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

I also agree with what Smoke said about the parents taking this to the press.This little girl obviously has some problems and I wouldnt if I were her parents want to smear her name and face all over the news with her behavioral issues.

Talk about protecting her? I would want to protect her privacy.Because look even here?Many of us arent thinking the school did anything wrong but that the little girl has issues so I could assume that wherever they live locally people that know them might be thinking the same thing.

IOW they have just blasted across the news that their little girl has emotional problems.As well as they have made themselves look like irresponsible parents with the details of them failing to meet with the school before it finally came to this.

Its their fault.I would feel a lot differnt if the parents for instance had been working closely with the school and had her in some sort of therapy or anything.

They obviously knew the girl was having problems and causing problems for the school.They admitted she had a "temper problem" ..Sounds like they expected the school to deal with it on thier own and so thats what they got.

This article refers to two consecutive days.So the first day she is Im assuming brought home by the police...they knew that and then just sent her back to school the very next day.How many consecutive days was a school expected to let one child disrupt the school ,attack the principle ,destroy or try and destroy school property while the parents went on about their regular day?

Love

Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

Even worse is what happened the next day, Haley's parents said.

This is what Im trying to point out for those of you who are saying why not call the parents.

The parents had the little girl in thier custody at some point after the police handcuffed her and put her in a police car..on Wednesday.

They knew the little girl had been handcuffed and put in a police car that day.How much more notification did the parents need that it was time to have a meeting with the school officials?

If the little girl was so trumatised and the school had acted so irresponsibly according to the parents WHY was the LITTLE GIRL back in school the next day while the parents went on to work?

Love

Dallas

 

[Kerr]

I dont see what other choice they had either if the girl wouldn't not calm down after a certain point.It doesn't sound like she had a momentary out burst it sounds like a tazmaniun devil tirade.

I have been way worse then that and no one has ever handcuffed me.

 

[McBell]

Who cares? If your kid is completely out of control and you can't even manage to make it to the school to talk to anybody about it, somebody else is going to end up taking action. When I was in first grade the teacher would have spanked a kid like that, but that's out of the question now, so what are they supposed to do?

The problem isn't that this brat was restrained, the problem is that her parents think that's the problem. As far as I'm concerned, they should be ashamed to go to the press with this story.

I totally agree with you.

As do I.

 

[Kerr]

And to Ker..I dont see how the little girl was/is being 'condemned".Im sure they arent keeping her in restraints.The handcuffs were a temporary solution to get that particular situation under control.

It was just a way to put it.

And there are many solutions one can take. When I went to school I was a real wild child. They even gave me a personal assistant because I had such problems with restraint. But no handcuffs.

 

[DallasApple]

I dont know why this is bugging me so bad that people are critisizing the school..and saying "jeez call the parents"...

The way Im reading this story it sounds like this is how it went down.

The little girl was demonstrating behavioral problems at school for some amount of time.The school contacted the parents made repeated efforts to set up a meeting with the parents..

The mother apparently had an appontment on a Tuesday which she failed to attend due to "car trouble"..

The next day a Wednesday Im assuming the mother(and the father) had another excuse not to set up a meeting for that day and thats when the little girl threw a fit that they handcuffed her for and she went home.The parents were aware of this incident.

The next day would be a Thursday correct?The girl is depostied back at school and the mother obviously had transportation to get to work but again wasnt at the school to discuss either her apparent outrage at the schools actions or to talk to the school about what her plans were to deal with this.The little girl throws another violent temper tantrum including hitting the pregnant principle ..they take the same action as the day previous that as I said the parents knew about but this time they take the little girl to a medical fascility and notify the parents of what happened.

Then the parents are suddenly screaming about what a terrible thing to do to their daughter.

Why is the school at fault?And how many days of the week would you expect them to have a violent out of control child in the principles tearing the place down and physically attacking people while the parents went about their work day saying there is nothing wrong with thier daughter?

How many days of the week should the school have to spend with this little girl having a meltdown in the principles office notifying the parents and waiting for them to pick her up?

Love

Dallas

 

[McBell]

The next day, the police took the kid off school grounds to a mental ward.

Good.
Perhaps now the parents will wake up and start dealing with their demon spawn child instead of letting others do their job.

I will not be holding my breath though.

 

[McBell]

Handcuff a kid at that age? That is just wrong. I know I did worse things then her, including biting my teachers and tearing my school books apart. Have a memory of jumping a classmate for no reason (probably happened many times) and I threw a book shelf on the floor. What helped me was that I had good and patient parents and that everyone was understanding rather then condemning. But then again, the school that I went to was not an ordinary school, it had good teachers that understood children like me and had a different way to approach things.

Seems to me that the main difference is that your parents actually cared and took steps.

Sounds to me as though the parents of that brat refuse to do anything about it other than excuse it as a "temper problem".

To bad schools ain't allowed to use tasers....