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Give a reason for your faith

Spiderman

Veteran Member
So what are your reasons for believing what you do?

I get most grace when I pray to murdered girls.

They leave impressions on my mind and soul and enter my dreams if I but invite them. I keep a shrine to them in my room where I keep candles and incense burning. I also have made stone shrines for them in the woods where I purchase plants and flowers for them. They always outdo me in generosity. I have different feast days each month where I invoke a different victim soul. I can't wait till I meet them. I even transubstantiate wine into their blood for Holy-communion.

My reasons for believing what I do...well...it works for me, lots of coincidence, and it gets me more grace than when I try other things. Other reasons I believe that the dead can hear us is I have studied the miracles that have to get approved before someone can get canonized, like this: Saint Faustina's Miracle: The Digans Tell Their Story | Marians of the Immaculate Conception

What about you? Please give a reason for your faith. It doesn't have to be a convincing reason, just something that you cherish and why.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Aside from the standard "we all are where we are as products of our past legacy," it pretty much boils down to "it works for me right now" and "I like it." If it stops working for me or if I stop liking it, then it's time for change. Could I outline a bunch of intellectualized reasons for having the path I do? Sure. But it really does boil down to "does it work" and "do you like it" - usefulness/functionality and personal preference.
 

Tabu

Active Member
So what are your reasons for believing what you do?

I get most grace when I pray to murdered girls.

They leave impressions on my mind and soul and enter my dreams if I but invite them. I keep a shrine to them in my room where I keep candles and incense burning. I also have made stone shrines for them in the woods where I purchase plants and flowers for them. They always outdo me in generosity. I have different feast days each month where I invoke a different victim soul. I can't wait till I meet them. I even transubstantiate wine into their blood for Holy-communion.

My reasons for believing what I do...well...it works for me, lots of coincidence, and it gets me more grace than when I try other things. Other reasons I believe that the dead can hear us is I have studied the miracles that have to get approved before someone can get canonized, like this: Saint Faustina's Miracle: The Digans Tell Their Story | Marians of the Immaculate Conception

What about you? Please give a reason for your faith. It doesn't have to be a convincing reason, just something that you cherish and why.
My faith came as a result of experimenting and experiencing different beliefs during my days of mental agony.
I had decided that the one which provides me the most relief and lifts me from these deep dark dungeons of hopelessness and provides a reason to life would be the one I would choose.
So after 5-6 years of searching and experimenting , I came across videos of BK sister Shivani , and her speeches,stability and sweetness prompted me to try this faith , and along the course the turbulences in my life stabilized and the wonderful experiences of happiness and peace associated with this faith settled me here.
This knowledge (BK gyan) ,also provides us with insights into other belief systems and scriptures.
Like if someone says they had a vision of a deity they worship and some wishes were fulfilled through that vision, the BK gyan suggests that the one who grants these visions is not that deity, but the One Supreme Soul who fulfils their desire for visions according to their inclinations , again visions are temporary relief , they don't change destiny and the pen of destiny is in one's own hands , it is called deeds. With our deeds we write our destinies.
The relationship between us and God portrayed by BKs as one of a parent and a child , as beloved and a lover among many others establish and strengthen one's trust and faith in God. And once this bond is strengthened all dependencies fall off , and you feel light, with no worries because now you are ascertained that you have come into the lap of the Father and He will fix my every situation each worry ,you seem to have got wings and start flying in happiness and joy over self realization and realization of this wonderful bond we share with God.
"When God is my companion I am the richest in the world."

For the first time here ,I would also like to share excerpts of the BK murli
"Even to look at your own body is like looking at others. You yourself are a soul, your body is external. Your body is matter; it is external. To be matter conscious is to be influenced by matter, which means you spin the discus of looking at others. "
"Wasteful thoughts and old sanskars(values) are also connected to body consciousness. The sanskars of soul consciousness, the sanskars of you souls are the sanskars of the Father. You know the sanskars of the Father: He is constantly the World Benefactor, the Merciful One who uplifts souls and the Bestower of Blessings. Have you become the natural form of these sanskars? "
". Sanskars(values) are such that they make you, the soul, automatically move along according to them. Consider your sanskars to be the automatic key, on the basis of which you continue to move along. When you wind up a toy doll with its key, it continues to dance. In the same way, your sanskars(values) are the key in life. So, have you made the Father’s sanskars your original sanskars? In other words, you refer to this saying, “This is my nature”. Let your nature become like that of the Father: a constant bestower of blessings, one who constantly uplifts others and one who is constantly merciful. Would you then have to labour?"
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Aside from the standard "we all are where we are as products of our past legacy," it pretty much boils down to "it works for me right now" and "I like it." If it stops working for me or if I stop liking it, then it's time for change. Could I outline a bunch of intellectualized reasons for having the path I do? Sure. But it really does boil down to "does it work" and "do you like it" - usefulness/functionality and personal preference.
You say "past legacy" to mean "past life" right?...Do you have any knowledge of who you were in a past life?
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
You say "past legacy" to mean "past life" right?...Do you have any knowledge of who you were in a past life?

No, I don't mean "past life." As an ecological thinker, I view reality as too much of an interconnected and interdependent weave to view individual organisms as having some sort of linear sequence of life-deaths. By "past legacy" I mean both what would be termed an autobiographical narrative and all the other actors and environments that were part of that narrative. Our past legacy includes our teachers, our parents, our culture, our selves... lots of things. And we leave legacy footprints in others lives all the time too.
 

MonkeyFire

Well-Known Member
I get Faith as nature manifested to my consciousnesd as a single thought many times over ; "I, believe."
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
What reason could I possibly describe for having unwavering faith in my own abilities?

There is confidence and there is arrogance; I obviously reflect both in my Weltanschauung and spiritual-religious views... to a strong degree. Because of this, I frequently get the results I want, whenever I set my mind to something, because I do not say "I can't", or "I am not capable of this". Even when I believe myself to be more capable at something than I am, that burning desire to push past my limits and defy the boundaries of reality is often far more beneficial to me than detrimental.
 

Nyingjé Tso

Dharma not drama
Vanakkam,

I have no reason for my faith. Did not choose it either... It just happened. Met Shiva, it was like a switch. Something suddenly clicked, as if it was always here.
I can try to get as far away From Shiva as I can, always end up back in his arms. Something deep inside is forever tied, since another previous life, I suppose

Truly have no reason

Aum Namah Shivaya
 

Meander_Z

Member
Aside from the standard "we all are where we are as products of our past legacy," it pretty much boils down to "it works for me right now" and "I like it." If it stops working for me or if I stop liking it, then it's time for change. Could I outline a bunch of intellectualized reasons for having the path I do? Sure. But it really does boil down to "does it work" and "do you like it" - usefulness/functionality and personal preference.

On the whole I agree with you entirely. I would only add that usefulness and preference (at least in my own case) would be more akin to that of a marriage commitment, than say loyalty to a hair care product.

I'm committed to my religious beliefs, not in an absolute sense. I don't believe my religious ideologies are infallible or unchanging, but I seek changes within the commitment rather than swapping religions whenever things get rough. Much as a married person would try to work out marriage problems before seeking a divorce.

You could say I met my religion-spouse when I was very young, but required many years to get myself out of the "arranged marriage" my parents had chosen for me. I had a few casual flings before I decided to make a real commitment, and I've been "married" for about 9 years now. I love my religion.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Baha'u'llah, the Blessed Beauty, the Blessed Perfection, taught me to love all humanity and accept all religions and all truth. With Baha'u'llah I found no more conflict. I don't have to reject any religion but instead accept them all and find inner peace in doing so. Baha'u'llah taught me that if Christ was true then so is Buddha, Zoroaster, Muhammad and Krishna. All the Holy Books are my Holy Books too and Baha'u'llah taught me to love and cherish them all. I can now be a Universal person unrestricted by dogma and free as a bird to pray in a mosque, synagogue, church, pagoda or Hindu temple. Atheists are equal human beings. No one is excluded or rejected. The whole world is my family. I cannot ask for anything more world bracing than that.

Thank you for asking this question.
 

Geoff-Allen

Resident megalomaniac
I agree that "It works for me" - otherwise why cling to a belief system that doesn't bring you peace-of-mind ...

I have discovered that cultivating kindness & unconditional compassion leads to a pleasant state of being. When I forget 2 practice thing can go downhill VERY fast :)

Namaste
 

LAGoff

Member
My faith grows when I turn away from grace* because living in it creates too much energy/Light (i.e. synchronicities with their demanding messages for me). I have a brain and so I choose to use it instead of going down the grace path. When grace comes (actually, I have to program/tune-in to get grace with its dead-on messages and demands) I quickly tell myself that I have a big brain (which includes creativity, intuition, and imagination) and can use it for the situation. This may not be a 'spiritual', Light filled way to go, but at least I know I can snuggle up to its glow in my dark cave.

*my def. of grace: going/following where the synchronicities/clues/messages lead.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
So what are your reasons for believing what you do?

I get most grace when I pray to murdered girls.

They leave impressions on my mind and soul and enter my dreams if I but invite them. I keep a shrine to them in my room where I keep candles and incense burning. I also have made stone shrines for them in the woods where I purchase plants and flowers for them. They always outdo me in generosity. I have different feast days each month where I invoke a different victim soul. I can't wait till I meet them. I even transubstantiate wine into their blood for Holy-communion.

My reasons for believing what I do...well...it works for me, lots of coincidence, and it gets me more grace than when I try other things. Other reasons I believe that the dead can hear us is I have studied the miracles that have to get approved before someone can get canonized, like this: Saint Faustina's Miracle: The Digans Tell Their Story | Marians of the Immaculate Conception

What about you? Please give a reason for your faith. It doesn't have to be a convincing reason, just something that you cherish and why.

I wasn't raised "family oriented." Our family reunions were funerals out of state and our thanksgivings were rarely outside my immediate family. Our "family" started declining slowly after my first grandmother passed away of AIDS; and, the whole thing wasn't handled as a family. We drifted away from family ever since. I moved out, second grandmother passed away, I had that incident with the car (I said some where here on RF), and saw my younger sister cry.

Ever since then, that's the reason I really want to keep with my family in spirit as well as living today. Because of the way each of my family member's parted, they all had smiles on their face. And, from what I'm told, they all had one request "don't break up the family."

My mother's side (which the issue started) is still having a tough time knowing "family-time" outside our living environments. My father's side are all over and still invite you for Christmas even if they are a day and a half away by travel.

The "religious-lookin'" things like offerings and all of that is actions of gratitude. The reason is, I never was taught how and what it meant to say "thank you."

When you see people as a unit or family rather than an individuals, as I have been taught cultural wise, we find family and spiritual support everywhere. When we limit ourselves (in my view) to the individual. Then we fall into the "I can't do this alone..." and it doesn't need to be that way if we didn't have a inner criteria of "who earns my trust."
 

LAGoff

Member
My faith grows when I turn away from grace* because living in it creates too much energy/Light (i.e. synchronicities with their demanding messages for me). I have a brain and so I choose to use it instead of going down the grace path. When grace comes (actually, I have to program/tune-in to get grace with its dead-on messages and demands) I quickly tell myself that I have a big brain (which includes creativity, intuition, and imagination) and can use it for the situation. This may not be a 'spiritual', Light filled way to go, but at least I know I can snuggle up to its glow in my dark cave.

*my def. of grace: going/following where the synchronicities/clues/messages lead.

I changed my mind. I am asking God to grace me- but not to scare me, because I just can't take too much grace. I now pray for God to give me clues/synchronicities that don't go past the scare-point. In other words, I decided I didn't want grace because I thought that God wouldn't give me grace anymore because I failed Him the last time I was tested/given it. But I decided that God can forgive me. I may even accept God 'testing'/giving grace to me again at the same level as before, because now I know that I can always deny it or fail the test or fail Him and others and start over again because God is forgiving. I feel that as long as I want to grow (or engage with life) He will continue with me. In other words, I looked inside me and decided that I want light/life, and I believe that God can get me to the light/life zone, even if on the surface I am scared of light/life and the grace that lead me there.
 
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