Go ahead. Take your top off

[Smart_Guy]

I dont know about many Playboy models becoming porn stars, I havent heard of that at all really. And Playboy I find artistic actually. In fact, there's a pile of some just a few feet from me. Now, magazines such as Hustler are more on the pornographic side, but Playboy? No. Not really. At least not in my opinion.

I did a Google search for "playboy model to porn star" and the second link gave many examples. Can't post it here since it is +18 stuff. Maybe not Play Boy, but many other similar performances in nature of only showing off. But thinking about it, Play Boy did provide full nudity after it started as just boobs. This is a risk that worries me too.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Permission for a minor to do something is such situations is not verbal, but written and signed contract. The minor cannot make legal decisions on their own, and to ensure that the film company cannot be sued for anything in particular that the minor may do in their movie, they must have the contractual permission of a parent or legal guardian.

Yes, I mean what could happen after passing the age of being minor. With parental approval in the age of being minor, things seem could escalate after that. Past decisions affect future decisions too.

 

[Draka]

I did a Google search for "playboy model to porn star" and the second link gave many examples. Can't post it here since it is +18 stuff. Maybe not Play Boy, but many other similar performances in nature of only showing off. But thinking about it, Play Boy did provide full nudity after it started as just boobs. This is a risk that worries me too.

Full nudity, but nothing really graphic, and usually done in good taste.

 

[Draka]

Yes, I mean what could happen after passing the age of being minor. With parental approval in the age of being minor, things seem could escalate after that. Past decisions affect future decisions too.

Do you think being told "no" at 16 would stop someone from doing something as an adult? And it's not like girls don't have a mind of their own. We're talking 16 years old. Practically an adult anyway. 16 year old girls can drive, work at a job, give sexual consent, hell, they even have babies. Showing breasts at that age isn't some huge deal that will likely scar them for the rest of their lives.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Do you think being told "no" at 16 would stop someone from doing something as an adult? And it's not like girls don't have a mind of their own. We're talking 16 years old. Practically an adult anyway. 16 year old girls can drive, work at a job, give sexual consent, hell, they even have babies. Showing breasts at that age isn't some huge deal that will likely scar them for the rest of their lives.

At least that's pretty much the case in America, and perhaps Europe, and a few other places. There are other places in the world where girls cannot do those things, and if they do, may be subject to severe social ostracism and punishment.

 

[Godobeyer]

But no actual sex is involved. It is just a body part being shown, like a foot or a man's chest. Is a baby breastfeeding a sex scene? It involves a breast. Does that make it a sex scene?
So porn made by married couples is okay? What if it is the married man engaging in porn instead of the wife? Is that different?

To me porn is not okay anyway ,including showing breast or any other privet parts.

It's seems the traditions and cultures are very differents .

maybe some people here agree with that his wife or GF or daughter had sex or make sex scene , here that consider as cuckold act, including showing sex scene (married or not) is not ok.

breastfeeding is could be very attractive to man,and cause problem(you know ) , I don't know if the same for women when they saw chest man.

I remember in past the Westerns women , and all women very covered than these day !

 

[Skwim]

A tasteful scene would not require an underage girl to show her bare breasts.

So why do you find the sight of "underage" girls bare breasts to be distasteful? I assume you find the sight of the bare breasts of a girl of age to be tasteful:

Bare breasts of an 17 year - 11 month - 3 week - 6 day old girl:

Bare breasts of an 18 year - 1 day old girl

.

 

[Skwim]

It is against the law. I think you might have overlooked what he was responding to. The question he was replying to was whether or not those that said yes about being topless would approve of their 16 year old daughter doing hard-core porn.

Hard core porn is against the law for a 16 year old.

You're right. My bad.

 

[Father Heathen]

breastfeeding is could be very attractive to man,and cause problem(you know )

Who would find tits titillating with a baby latched to them? And how does being attracted to or arousing by something "cause problem"? Real men who live in civilized societies know how to behave themselves. Mature adults can handle seeing bare breasts or genitals without being shocked, offended, or lecherous.

 

[Draka]

Who would find tits titillating with a baby latched to them? And how does being attracted to or arousing by something "cause problem"? Real men who live in civilized societies know how to behave themselves. Mature adults can handle seeing bare breasts or genitals without being shocked, offended, or lecherous.

I think the "problem" he is referring to is an erection. To which I still have to think both "ew" and ultimately "so what". It's not a woman's fault, nor her breast's, while naturally feeding her baby, because some pervert got a boner. He's the one with an issue. Not her.

 

[Father Heathen]

I think the "problem" he is referring to is an erection. To which I still have to think both "ew" and ultimately "so what". It's not a woman's fault, nor her breast's, while naturally feeding her baby, because some pervert got a boner. He's the one with an issue. Not her.

You know, I beginning to wonder if living in such a repressed society actually stunts emotional development to some degree.

 

[Scott C.]

In the 1999 movie American Beauty, Jane, the daughter of the protagonist develops a happy friendship with a shy boy-next-door, Ricky. One evening Jane, played by Thora Birch, is up in her bedroom where she notices Ricky watching her from his his bedroom. In dead-pan and without so much as a nod of recognition she approaches her window where she slowly takes off her top revealing her bare breasts to Ricky.

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Not a particularly notable scene, but when the scene was filmed Birch was only sixteen years old.

"[Thora Birch was] actually only 16 years old at the time she was filmed nude for a scene in American Beauty (1999). She told TV talk show host Craig Kilborn when she appeared on his show in 2002 that her parents didn't have a problem with her doing a nude scene, despite her being under age, and they encouraged her to go ahead and do it. They agreed that her character's nude scene was so important to the development of her character that they gave their approval."
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My question then is, would you as a parent approve of your 16 year old daughter doing the same?

I'm surprised that the movie industry is allowed to exploit a minor this way.

 

[Father Heathen]

So why do you find the sight of "underage" girls bare breasts to be distasteful? I assume you find the sight of the bare breasts of a girl of age to be tasteful:

Bare breasts of an 17 year - 11 month - 3 week - 6 day old girl:

Bare breasts of an 18 year - 1 day old girl

.

Arbitrary age limit aside, maturity and naivety can be a factor around that age, where they're easier to manipulate and exploit. They also deal with more issues regarding insecurity, self-esteem, body image, etc.

 

[Draka]

You know, I beginning to wonder if living in such a repressed society actually stunts emotional development to some degree.

Well, it certainly doesn't seem all that mature to blame other people for the emotional and physical reactions you have when looking at them. Yet that is what happens with women in such places. It is somehow miraculously a woman's fault if a man is aroused just looking at her. I mean, if she is trying to seduce him, okay, but just showing some skin? The shape of her body? That's not her problem, it is his.

 

[Father Heathen]

Well, it certainly doesn't seem all that mature to blame other people for the emotional and physical reactions you have when looking at them. Yet that is what happens with women in such places. It is somehow miraculously a woman's fault if a man is aroused just looking at her. I mean, if she is trying to seduce him, okay, but just showing some skin? The shape of her body? That's not her problem, it is his.

If males in the middle east cannot practice restraint or self control, they can't rightly be considered men.

 

[Scott C.]

I don't promote body shame to my children, so if they wanted to do it is fine with me. Also, it is not quite weird families of nudists/naturalists often attend functions completely naked amongst strangers. That includes the kids, the teenagers, and everyone else. Why does it matter if that nakedness is on film as long as it is not sexually explicit? Anyway, for most of the world, sixteen is the age of sexual consent so no foul.

What's with this new buzz phrase "body shaming"? Do people seriously think that the reason we wear clothes and teach our children to wear clothes is out of shame for the human body? Ridiculous.

 

[Scott C.]

I don't understand the link between showing breasts and sex scenes or porn that some make. They are breasts, not reproductive organs. Unless you find the sight of a woman breastfeeding an infant as sexually arousing, as a sex act in itself, then I don't see how the link is being made. And if one does find the image of a sweet innocent baby feeding as nature intended as something dirty or sexual, then it is that person who has some sick issues.

Breasts are sexual but they also feed a child. It's all about context. As to why they are sexual, I'm not sure. But they are to me.

 

[Father Heathen]

What's with this new buzz phrase "body shaming"? Do people seriously think that the reason we wear clothes and teach our children to wear clothes is out of shame for the human body? Ridiculous.

That's not what body shaming is. Body shaming is basically ridiculing someone for being too fat, or too skinny, too pale, etc, etc. The notion that people need to fit some sort of physical ideal.

 

[Father Heathen]

Breasts are sexual but they also feed a child. It's all about context. As to why they are sexual, I'm not sure. But they are to me.

I've read in the past that such attraction is instinctual, because it means a potential mate will be apt for adequately feeding offspring, or something like that.

 

[Valjean]

I'm surprised that the movie industry is allowed to exploit a minor this way.

How is this exploitation? It's a scene in a film.

Breasts are sexual but they also feed a child. It's all about context. As to why they are sexual, I'm not sure. But they are to me.

They are sexual to you for the same reason ankles were sexual to your grandfather. When you hide something; when you make it forbidden, you make it titillating. Had you been raised in a more liberal society the sight of a breast might be no more sexual than the sight of an ankle.