God clearly wants us confused

[Nakosis]

Clearly you just have to look at the history of Religion and it is obvious people are divided and confused. Without interfering with free-will, God could easily solve that problem. What do you think his reason is for wanting us confused?

I see it as a game. God makes it nearly impossible to win. Everything possible is stacked against you. The goal is to overcome every obstacle that is put in your path so you can enjoy the feeling of overcoming the impossible. God is not your friend. God is your adversary. God's job in this is to keep you from winning. You, in order to win, have to defeat God. This doesn't make God evil, God is just doing "his/her/its" job.

Of course I don't know that any of that is true but it makes life interesting to view it this way. It's a game. God is your opponent. Can you overcome everything God throws at you? God sends you to hell, tells you there's no way out of it. Are you going to take God's word for that? How do you know it's not a another trick to keep you from winning?

 

[JustWondering]

I learned all Jesus taught--In every translation on earth --his teachings back the JW,s and expose the trinity religions as false.-- 0 doubt--learn them.

A prerequisite for me to believe in a god is that it would be able to clearly convey any messages/demands it may have for us without causing any confusion to the ones it's intended for. Since the Abrahamic god fails that requirement I list it as another fabrication of ancient, superstitious men.

Listening to theists argue about their god's traits is like listening to comic book enthusiasts argue about what superman can or can't do.

 

[kjw47]

A prerequisite for me to believe in a god is that it would be able to clearly convey any messages/demands it may have for us without causing any confusion to the ones it's intended for. Since the Abrahamic god fails that requirement I list it as another fabrication of ancient, superstitious men.

Listening to theists argue about their god's traits is like listening to comic book enthusiasts argue about what superman can or can't do.

God is very wise to hide his truth, It keeps satan and his angels in spiritual darkness, so he cant twist it all into oblivion like he tried through the councils of Catholicism. And in their translating to fit certain passages to fit their false council teachings, like the non existent trinity god they dupe people into serving. Because of those council lies--2 billion are being mislead away from God and entrance into his kingdom.

 

[JustWondering]

God is very wise to hide his truth, It keeps satan and his angels in spiritual darkness, so he cant twist it all into oblivion like he tried through the councils of Catholicism. And in their translating to fit certain passages to fit their false council teachings, like the non existent trinity god they dupe people into serving. Because of those council lies--2 billion are being mislead away from God and entrance into his kingdom.

Arguing about the traits of an invisible entity that hasn't been shown to actually exist seems kind of silly to me. Perhaps you should start by showing empirical evidence that a god exists, then based on that evidence we can talk about what it's traits are. By empirical evidence, I don't mean stories from two thousand years ago.

 

[RESOLUTION]

Clearly you just have to look at the history of Religion and it is obvious people are divided and confused. Without interfering with free-will, God could easily solve that problem. What do you think his reason is for wanting us confused?

You can say He doesn't want us confused, but I know better. If he didn't want us confused, he would speak up and answer our questions. For one person, the truth is Judaism. For another person the truth is Atheism. For another person the truth is Christianity. For another, the truth is Islam. For another, Mormonism, for another the truth is Polytheism. And the list goes on and on.

God clearly wants us confused or he would speak up to us and let us know the truth. There is a small percentage of people that God wills have enlightenment and understanding.

Do you realise what you just said?

The matter of confusion... God is not the author of confusion.
1 Corinthians 14:33 (KJV)
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Do you see how when the truth is told confusion no longer exists? All the above references you make to Judaism, Atheism and Christianity cannot be correct as all cannot be the truth, when it comes to God can they?

There is peace in the true Church. There in lies your answer.

 

[kjw47]

Arguing about the traits of an invisible entity that hasn't been shown to actually exist seems kind of silly to me. Perhaps you should start by showing empirical evidence that a god exists, then based on that evidence we can talk about what it's traits are. By empirical evidence, I don't mean stories from two thousand years ago.

I already know he exists. He reveals himself to those that love him enough to listen to him. There is no argument.
I believe in most cases of those that refuse to believe in him is because those live for the satisfaction of flesh.

 

[Muffled]

I learned all Jesus taught--In every translation on earth --his teachings back the JW,s and expose the trinity religions as false.-- 0 doubt--learn them.

I believe I know more than you will ever learn.

 

[Thief]

I don't get it. In the Bible God constantly speaks directly and clearly to people. Why did he do that then and not today?

I don't just mean when Jesus walked the earth. The word of God constantly came to people in the Old Testament. It was clear messages and instruction given to them.

I just don't understand why he refuses to give clear messages and instruction to the average person. It would certainly increase the likelihood of people doing his will.

how many times do you need to hear the message?

(and maybe God is busy elsewhere)

 

[kjw47]

I believe I know more than you will ever learn.

Many think that exact thought--Many are in error.
How is it, you think you have defeated satan? by finding Gods truth? The Elite scholars( Gods chosen) living in Jesus day--thought that as well, yet satan owned them. How is it, you could stand against him and not be fooled?
Not all is as appears in a satan ruled system.

 

[JustWondering]

I already know he exists. He reveals himself to those that love him enough to listen to him. There is no argument.
I believe in most cases of those that refuse to believe in him is because those live for the satisfaction of flesh.

Hearing voices in your head is evidence for schizophrenia not god.

 

[JustWondering]

Many think that exact thought--Many are in error.
How is it, you think you have defeated satan? by finding Gods truth? The Elite scholars( Gods chosen) living in Jesus day--thought that as well, yet satan owned them. How is it, you could stand against him and not be fooled?
Not all is as appears in a satan ruled system.

Says the guy with zero evidence to support his beliefs.

 

[kjw47]

Hearing voices in your head is evidence for schizophrenia not god.

I don't hear voices in my head. But he will reveal himself to his true followers.Few on earth know him. There are MANY false gods.

 

[kjw47]

Says the guy with zero evidence to support his beliefs.

God requires faith. The wicked require proof.

 

[JustWondering]

God requires faith. The wicked require proof.

Blind faith requires gullibility. Rational, intellectually honest people require evidence before accepting claims about invisible magical entities.

 

[JustWondering]

I don't hear voices in my head. But he will reveal himself to his true followers.Few on earth know him. There are MANY false gods.

I agree that there are many false gods, like, all of them, including yours.

 

[Falvlun]

God is very wise to hide his truth, It keeps satan and his angels in spiritual darkness, so he cant twist it all into oblivion like he tried through the councils of Catholicism.

This doesn't make sense at all. If Satan wasn't in spiritual darkness would he still be Satan? Wouldn't he then "see the Light?"

And if you think that Satan is a lost cause regardless, then what about us? By hiding his truth, God is allowing all of us to fall prey to Satan's twisting and confusion. If we knew God's truth it would be much harder to be misled.

 

[kjw47]

Blind faith requires gullibility. Rational, intellectually honest people require evidence before accepting claims about invisible magical entities.

Its Gods way= the only way. God reveals himself to those who learn and apply his will.

 

[kjw47]

I agree that there are many false gods, like, all of them, including yours.

There is one true living God= YHWH(Jehovah)-- 0 doubt

 

[kjw47]

This doesn't make sense at all. If Satan wasn't in spiritual darkness would he still be Satan? Wouldn't he then "see the Light?"

And if you think that Satan is a lost cause regardless, then what about us? By hiding his truth, God is allowing all of us to fall prey to Satan's twisting and confusion. If we knew God's truth it would be much harder to be misled.

I have shared 6 teachings from Jesus in every sight like this I am in--every Trinitarian--rejects those 6 teachings, even though those teachings are in their bible to. They want the darkness--they want their ears tickled with lies( you are saved, or born again)
They outright refuse to listen to Jesus over mens dogmas.
Truth is easily found in Jesus teachings.

 

[Falvlun]

I have shared 6 teachings from Jesus in every sight like this I am in--every Trinitarian--rejects those 6 teachings, even though those teachings are in their bible to. They want the darkness--they want their ears tickled with lies( you are saved, or born again)
They outright refuse to listen to Jesus over mens dogmas.
Truth is easily found in Jesus teachings.

So God doesn't hide his truth?