God is disproven by science? Really?

[ElishaElijah]

As a Christian I believe Jesus would be kicked out of many forums for saying things like this after having these type of conversations:

”Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”“
‭‭John‬ ‭8‬:‭42‬-‭47‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You’re the one who started with the persecution, belittling stuff and you can’t even say who or what it is, or the context of the conversation.

I'm asking you a question. You refuse to answer and are doing your best to ham handedly make this about me. But the questions are to you. Do you think that calling someone old and worthless to be good witness? Yes or No? Which is it.

Do you think calling someone a tool of Satan for defending others against such tactics to be good witness? Yes or No?

 

[ElishaElijah]

Is following someone around for months make veiled references and snide comments good witness? Where is that found in the Bible?

This is exactly you brother, I think I speak right to the point even though the rules here don’t permit that most of the time.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

As a Christian I believe Jesus would be kicked out of many forums for saying things like this after having these type of conversations:

”Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”“
‭‭John‬ ‭8‬:‭42‬-‭47‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

I am confident that Jesus would not evade my questions. In fact, I think He would tell me that it is reprehensible and not indicative of a Citizen of Heaven on Earth.

 

[YoursTrue]

Do you think that belittling others and beating them down is good witness? Are you claiming that is part of the Bible?

Is following someone around for months make veiled references and snide comments good witness? Where is that found in the Bible?

couldn't help seeing the posts, sorry if you think that is an infringement on one's rights to respond. Oh well. take care. Meantime -- it sounds very much like you're persecuting someone because -- why? they want your viewpoint? Oooohhh that's a problem isn't it. Yeah, I mean do you disagree that Jesus clearly said what he thinks and the religious leaders opposed him? What do you think? C'mon, Dan, let's get real at a certain point. You've been evading answers for a looonnnggg time except to say, Oh, you're persecuting me -- or hounding me --- oh oh oh. !!!

 

[YoursTrue]

I am confident that Jesus would not evade my questions. In fact, I think He would tell me that it is reprehensible and not indicative of a Citizen of Heaven on Earth.

A citizen of heaven -- would they speak up for Jesus? Would they evade questions about faith and if they think Jesus really existed as written?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

This is exactly you brother, I think I speak right to the point even though the rules here don’t permit that most of the time.

You are correct. I have been followed around and had veiled references and snide comments made with what I am sure is the intent that I see them. There is a record.

Now there is a record of you trying yet another tactic to avoid answering my questions. I'm really surprised, given the picture I see you paint.

Your answer from all of that you should be an immediate NO. There shouldn't be any reason to quibble, mislead, shift the burden of responsibility, tag team smack down or anything like that. Your answer, in my opinion, should be NO straight away, that is not good witness.

What is preventing you from that answer?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

couldn't help seeing the posts, sorry if you think that is an infringement on one's rights to respond. Oh well. take care. Meantime -- it sounds very much like you're persecuting someone because -- why? they want your viewpoint? Oooohhh that's a problem isn't it. Yeah, I mean do you disagree that Jesus clearly said what he thinks and the religious leaders opposed him? What do you think? C'mon, Dan, let's get real at a certain point. You've been evading answers for a looonnnggg time except to say, Oh, you're persecuting me -- or hounding me --- oh oh oh. !!!

Do you think that belittling others and beating them down is good witness? Are you claiming that is part of the Bible?

Is following someone around for months make veiled references and snide comments good witness? Where is that found in the Bible?

Shouldn't a Christian answer NO without hesitation?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

A citizen of heaven -- would they speak up for Jesus? Would they evade questions about faith and if they think Jesus really existed as written?

Since you came in unbidden of your own free will, the questions on the table are mine. Either answer them, say you won't and move along.

I don't really understand why these questions can't be answered from those claiming the Spirit of the Lord guides them.

 

[ElishaElijah]

You are correct. I have been followed around and had veiled references and snide comments made with what I am sure is the intent that I see them. There is a record.

Now there is a record of you trying yet another tactic to avoid answering my questions. I'm really surprised, given the picture I see you paint.

Your answer from all of that you should be an immediate NO. There shouldn't be any reason to quibble, mislead, shift the burden of responsibility, tag team smack down or anything like that. Your answer, in my opinion, should be NO straight away, that is not good witness.

What is preventing you from that answer?

Dan, you seem to be stalking and don’t even have any basis for your bad judgement of conversations. Your fake outrage is showing.

 

[YoursTrue]

Do you think that belittling others and beating them down is good witness? Are you claiming that is part of the Bible?

Is following someone around for months make veiled references and snide comments good witness? Where is that found in the Bible?

Shouldn't a Christian answer NO without hesitation?

You mean like your snide comments and barbed jokes you've made? I wasn't following YOU around although I must say I find you interesting to say the least -- I was merely responding to a discussion you were having with @ElishaElijah where you were accusing him of something I see in many respects by some others, in their jokes and warnings, etc. So be it.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Dan, you seem to be stalking and don’t even have any basis for your bad judgement of conversations. Your fake outrage is showing.

Of course, it is my fault for asking that you cannot answer the questions. Now everything will be offered including the kitchen sink.

Clearly, you are not going to answer the questions asked of you.

I suppose I must conclude that you think such behavior is good witness.

 

[YoursTrue]

Since you came in unbidden of your own free will, the questions on the table are mine. Either answer them, say you won't and move along.

I don't really understand why these questions can't be answered from those claiming the Spirit of the Lord guides them.

Frankly, why not answer how you think you're a citizen of heaven. And another frankly, I am responding to the last few posts...astounded at your charge against @ElishaElijah . OK, fini. Have a good night.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Of course, it is my fault for asking that you cannot answer the questions. Now everything will be offered including the kitchen sink.

Clearly, you are not going to answer the questions asked of you.

I suppose I must conclude that you think such behavior is good witness.

You made unsubstantiated comments that were wrong between me and someone else and they were answered accordingly to the other persons comments.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You mean like your snide comments and barbed jokes you've made? I wasn't following YOU around although I must say I find you interesting to say the least -- I was merely responding to a discussion you were having with @ElishaElijah where you were accusing him of something I see in many respects by some others, in their jokes and warnings, etc. So be it.

That's interesting. There is a record of it that covers about 9 months. Now there is this portion of the thread to add to that.

I asked if it is good witness to belittle and beat down others. I am starting to come to a conclusion why you might defend someone from answering questions that should be straight away easy to answer.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You made unsubstantiated comments that were wrong

Show me the unsubstantiated comments and that they were wrong?

 

[ElishaElijah]

I asked if it is good witness to belittle and beat down others.

This is exactly how the member you are sympathizing for responds to believers. So yeah sympathy for the devil applies. If you really believe asking someone where their facts and prideful comments have gotten them in life is belittling then I think you’re wrong on that. It’s legitimate to ask.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You made unsubstantiated comments that were wrong between me and someone else and they were answered accordingly to the other persons comments.

I asked questions that I think you should be easily able to answer given what you have claimed.

Is belittling others and beating them down good witness?

Is the use of multiple tactics to avoid answering questions that any reasonable Christian should be able to answer good witness?

Is following someone around for months making snide comments and veiled references good witness?

I'm not sure I understand why these questions can't be answered in light of what has been claimed?

Yes or no? Good witness or not?

I don't think it will take an Oxford education for other readers to see what is going on here.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

This is exactly how the member you are sympathizing for responds to believers. So yeah sympathy for the devil applies.

I'm not sympathizing with anyone. I'm asking you questions and you are jumping through hoops it seems to avoid answering those questions.

The questions are pretty simple. The answers should clearly be easy to provide.

 

[YoursTrue]

That's interesting. There is a record of it that covers about 9 months. Now there is this portion of the thread to add to that.

I asked if it is good witness to belittle and beat down others. I am starting to come to a conclusion why you might defend someone from answering questions that should be straight away easy to answer.

I could answer now, but I"ll let the flames die down a bit if you don't mind.