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God Loves Everyone.. Unless You're Different Than Me

Harrytic

Member
Every other religion you have to work for your salvation. With Christianity you don't. But with the holy spirit, you are a new creation, able to do good works in Jesus' name. I love that.

The thing is it's not that simple. There is a huge amount of fine print in the bible lots and lots of rules that we must follow and if we don't then there are ramifications. Every Christian has different ideas about what a true Christian is and if you fall, then there are always a 101 excuses as to what you did wrong. Many believe that you can lose your salvation. I believe one can if one continues to sin without asking for forgiveness. Attitude is so important.

The thing is I can't say for sure one way or another, just what you have to do to ensure your salvation and neither can any other Christian for that matter. God has a track record of playing cruel games with his creations. I don't think anyone can be assured they will be saved. Were they sincere enough last time they asked for forgiveness? Did they forget to ask Christ for forgiveness for a sin? Perhaps they didn't realise they sinned or don't believe that they sinned when really they did? There are so many unanswerable questions and it seems to me Christians take way too much for granted when it comes to their salvation.
 
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Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
Everyone has broken at least one of the Ten Commandments at one time or another. That in itself ensures that we can't be in the presence of a perfect and holy God.

Why not?

I mean, isn't it God setting the rules? He can have anyone he wants in his presence. There's nothing about perfection that says it can't be in the company of imperfection, particularly if we are talking about perfect love. Surely perfect love would love everyone, and especially those that were born, through no fault of their own and by their very nature, as something less than perfect.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
It perplexes me. Homosexuals go to Hell if they don't have a relationship with Jesus, not for being homosexuals.

Uhm... sorry, but if you're a guy and must have a "relationship" with Jesus... uhm... sorry, but it sounds ... you know... :p And I'm really sorry if that offends anyone.

Maybe your post was intended that way? If it was, you're funny. :D If not, oops!
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
Liberals tolerate everyone... unless you disagree with them
God loves everyone... unless you're different


Basically, of course nobody would tolerate or love a totally opposite of themselves.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
Basically, of course nobody would tolerate or love a totally opposite of themselves.
But a) we aren't totally opposite to God. The Bible even says that we are made in his image, and b) God isn't just anybody. I don't think we can ascribe such an imperfect attribute such as intolerance to a supposedly perfect God.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
That's one of the most ignorant, hateful things I've ever heard.

So much for an "all-loving God". So loving that if you don't agree with "him" you'll burn for all eternity :rolleyes:
Sounds like a great setup for the lonely god syndrome. Poor fella, nothing he creates is good enough for him. How peachy is that? Sorta like the famous Greta Garbo line, "I vant to be alone."
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
Uhm... sorry, but if you're a guy and must have a "relationship" with Jesus... uhm... sorry, but it sounds ... you know... :p And I'm really sorry if that offends anyone.

Maybe your post was intended that way? If it was, you're funny. :D If not, oops!

Standard Christian usage was maybe not the right one to use in that instance.:eek:
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
But a) we aren't totally opposite to God. The Bible even says that we are made in his image, and b) God isn't just anybody. I don't think we can ascribe such an imperfect attribute such as intolerance to a supposedly perfect God.

Christian beliefs are the reenactment of their God; the person that doesn't have any checks alongside the Ten Commandments and has all checks alongside the 7 Deadly Sins, I recommend they see a doctor, and God recommends that they didn't exist.

Though we were made in God's image, God gave us freewill with what to do with that image. The paint can drip.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
Create everything and you get to call the shots.

Yeah, but we're the ones who make up the definitions. God can do whatever he wants--- but if he does that, he's not necessarily gonna still fit the definition of "all-loving", etc.
 
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