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God wants different religions

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
Could be, but for sure many died because of religion wars. Or even wars between different versions of the same religion.

that could have been avoided easily by just presenting one possible alternative to believers. No rational reason to wanting plurality of beliefs, since it seems to provide negative value, in general.

Ciao

- viole

Hmm...no arguments....you must believe the way I tell you to.....peace through dictatorship.

Oddly, most dictatorships, though quite peaceful most of the time, are great for the dictators, but not great for everyone else.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
I agree that God is behind all the religions but that does not mean that God wants everyone to continue to cling to the religions of the past. If God had wanted that, God would not have revealed a new religion and said that He wants everyone to recognize it.

Why do you think that God wants different religions to exist? The mere fact that they exist is no proof that is what God wants.

I believe that God wanted different religions to exist because otherwise God would not have revealed different religions throughout the ages, but I do not believe that God wants different religions to exist in the future. My belief is based upon the passage below from Baha'u'llah. If God ordains something it always comes to pass eventually.

“That which the Lord hath ordained as the sovereign remedy and mightiest instrument for the healing of all the world is the union of all its peoples in one universal Cause, one common Faith. This can in no wise be achieved except through the power of a skilled, an all-powerful and inspired Physician. This, verily, is the truth, and all else naught but error.”
The Summons of the Lord of Hosts, p. 91

Many religions believe that God knows the future. So, he would know what instructions to give everyone.

However, I think that you might be right about modifying religion as times change. In the old days, and "eye for an eye" was appropriate. Now, with nukes, one must be very reserved and passive or the world will blow up.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
The two things are self contradictory. Maybe God should review His plan.

ciao

- viole

If some deity put us on earth to win a nuclear war against other religions, it might want one very powerful and very aggressive, nonfeeliing group to win everything. The meek might not have anything to inherit, even if they survive.

Such a deity would have to be evil, I think?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
It might require a big war and a huge loss of life. I don't see enough of humanity evolving.
I believe it will happen eventually even if it requires a big war and a huge loss of life, although I do not think that will necessarily happen.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
If we could see the future, we'd see fearsome weapons. Yet, the use of those weapons comes from man....the same man who lived in caves....the same man who enslaved and tortured. The future is bleak because science has advanced mankind's ability to kill itself, and wipe out all life on earth. Some of that is happening now, without firing a shot....it's called Global Warming....it is about ignoring God's beautiful and balanced nature.

Science isn't to blame, but it amplifies the natural tendancies of man so that his destruction is more awesome and more final.
Humans are living now present. Instant answer is natural only said scientist. Not any Thesis.

Holy life is present says it's science teacher. Human.

Not before and not after.

Theist reason. 100 years ago I was deceased became some microbial bacterias. Decomposed. In 100 year future same type of human outcomes.

So a natural human who says I am truly sick and tired of lying scientists high priest rich men the organisation history.

Are you 100 years ago a dead bacterial microbe human now a living ape today?

In comparisons.

No the ape is deceased too the exact same outcome. Equal animal to human biology assessed.

Oh is that why you said baby life born in a Stable was due to end of year life rebirth balances two by gods status?

Animals included as not a tree woods nature. Similar to our biology?

Yes. For hu man life babies and animal babies. Life existing now. At every end cycle a year. Holy twelve.

Coloured cold gases seen in cooling is the coat of colours.
And earth the mother body riding in space as immaculate status?

M plus a s s mass. Middle reason irradiating core already owned life living sacrificed!

Yes. It was a direct science teaching.

Oh. What are you doing then to mother earths body?

Converting burning it out of existing.

Oh.

Didn't Rock own why gases gods earth released birthed from O gods body?

As rock had volcanic mass sealed. It did open but it did not take over rock.

Yes.

It had sex with itself O earth space as a sophist attitude smart comments?

Yes.

Scientific only stated by men.

So you knew natural entirely by a holy status then you changed it in full wisdom advised?

Yes.

Why isn't it sciences fault?

Oh he says I never owned it did I.

Father said once men knew no cruel or evil act. To use metals against his brother.

After he got irradiated by metal radiation his human nature changed. He built weaponry based on the evils he was taught. Copied it. Cold metals in the gas spirit environment were then used to kill life.

Is our spiritual teaching.

I know in self presence by how I feel who we once were.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
God wants different religions to exist. God wants all human to live in peace with each other. God want us to learn to be kind to each other no matter what religion a person believes in. God has no spesific religion. God is behind different religions

Any thoughts? Do you agree or disagree?

Can you list the peaceful religions out there?

The ones I'm familiar with have requirements of their own brand of truth for a person's salvation and seem to reject those that don't subscribe with eternal consequences.

I can understand having general religious wonder about existence. I can understand the desire for a Supreme God. However I cannot justify a lot of religions because they preach a truth that is dependent on faith and belief in things they couldn't possibly know to the exclusion of many different kinds of people.

I think it's true that some religions don't set up their truth above all humanity. Some religions even are more universal in nature.

What I understand the most is that people are in no position to know all the things they claim to be real. The most true position to me is to be agnostic without making assumptions about reality.

The most good humans can do is to come up with an evidence based morality that subscribes to all the positive virtues and values of the human race and excludes no one from those virtues and values.

My religion is my own, and it would be extremely unfair to expect everyone to adhere to it.

I have a general, universal acceptance of people regardless of religion or lack thereof. I think this is more beneficial to human decency.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Yet, if we don't try to understand what God wants, we can't give God what he wants.

Aztecs...invented basketball....needed something other than a head for a ball. (At one time, they used rubber).
Re the Aztecs, i was talking about their
religion.

As for knowing about God/ gods, we are both using
English, but I am an atheist in China,
you are wherever you are and our concepts
of reality are profoundly different.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Hmm...no arguments....you must believe the way I tell you to.....peace through dictatorship.

Oddly, most dictatorships, though quite peaceful most of the time, are great for the dictators, but not great for everyone else.
peaceful in what sense
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
In the US, Native Americans hate whites, Blacks riot while claiming that their lives matter, some Latinos are upset over Trump's wall, that they perceive to be hatred of them.

Racial relations are as bad now as they were in the 1960s as Blacks were lynched because of their skin color.

On the other hand, more than half of the US voted for a half-Black man (Obama), and I am certain that bigots would not have done that. Maybe there is hope for the human race getting along?

America was well warned of the impending troubles it would face, if it did not deal with race relations and reconciliation. We have the same issues in Australia.

I see it is a time of transition and as that unfolds the darkness is easier to see. That is because many people that are changing towards a more world embracing mindset, can now also see many have reversed the prejudices, black against white has added to the darkness that was once mainly white against black.

One can not fight prejudices with prejudices.

The injustices that many have faced have gone a full circle, as our ability to forgive has been clouded by the revenge mentality.

I have noticed a growing tendancy in TV shows that are now all about revenge, it is mind numbing, so called entertainment.

Regards Tony
 
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PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
God wants different religions to exist. God wants all human to live in peace with each other. God want us to learn to be kind to each other no matter what religion a person believes in. God has no spesific religion. God is behind different religions

Any thoughts? Do you agree or disagree?

So YOUR god is a god of confusion. And if your god wants his citizens to burn their widows
or tear out people's hearts in sacrifice - that's ok with the god who wants to be 'kind' to people?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
America was well warned of the impending troubles it would face, if it did not deal with race relations and reconciliation. We have the same issues in Australia.

I see it is a time of transition and as that unfolds the darkness is easier to see. That is because many people that are changing towards a more world embracing mindset, can now also see many have reversed the predudices, black against white has added to the darkness that was once mainly white against black.

One can not fight predudices with predudices.

The injustices that many have faced have gone a full circle, as our ability to forgive has been clouded by the revenge mentality.

I have noticed a growing tendancy in TV shows that are now all about revenge, it is mind numbing, so called entertainment.

Regards Tony

The d and the j keys are not even close to eachother
 

Audie

Veteran Member
So YOUR god is a god of confusion. And if your god wants his citizens to burn their widows
or tear out people's hearts in sacrifice - that's ok with the god who wants to be 'kind' to people?
Something was not thought thru very well
 
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DNB

Christian
God wants different religions to exist. God wants all human to live in peace with each other. God want us to learn to be kind to each other no matter what religion a person believes in. God has no spesific religion. God is behind different religions

Any thoughts? Do you agree or disagree?
Obviously not. Is the omniscient, holy and all powerful single deity, God the Father, divided? He does not know what pleases Him? He demands one to eat kosher, another not to eat meat on Fridays, another he allows to eat shellfish, another to worship the cow, and another to slaughter the cow as a holy oblation. God demands one cults liturgy to consume the eucharist, and to another He considers it to be abomination? God can't make up His mind? He's frivolous when He demands obedience? He establishes capital crimes for one group, but not for another? One denomination believes that He became a man, while another considers it blasphemy (including myself) - God is pleased with both groups?

Don't be immature in your understanding of Holy and transcendent principles. God is not like man who changes his mind on a whim, or cannot make up his mind in order to make a decisive mandate. God is indignant towards those who do not revere or worship Him as prescribed, as He is worthy, as any person with any sense in their head would be.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
I've heard stories about the UN.

United for peace watching humans murdered yet told take up no arms against another.

The victim wonders what they did wrong.

To just be born to then be tortured and sacrificed. By their own human family.

An I am innocent human holy theme. Was Jesus ...Jesus before Jesus was caused?

No. They were just an innocent baby.

So then you have to ask what type of human needs to stop violence.

Our brothers spiritual answer was the most powerful. I represent what God taught me. Innocent first. Most powerful yet without power.

So how can innocent be innocent?

Too late humans made the choice to force harmful change.

Our teaching.

So we gather as world leaders owning the DNA Genesis national sacrifice.

The same human.

Claiming we must somehow gain what we need. United family of humanity.

Wise ones they claim.

Wise of old are old. Toiled equally in life. Were our wise. Not rich men in other words. Rich men argue to be rich.

Old humans our parents who worked a hard equal life. Who speak a truth from their hearts and human experience. Life continuance.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I believe it will happen eventually even if it requires a big war and a huge loss of life, although I do not think that will necessarily happen.
It would only take China or Russia to begin to fail as a state and the leadership think it has nothing to lose. That's why globalism is a great approach to help maintain global stability via economics. It's trump's kind of nationalism that will harm stability and create conflict. Fortunately not enough businesses and consumers care about his politics.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
It would only take China or Russia to begin to fail as a state and the leadership think it has nothing to lose. That's why globalism is a great approach to help maintain global stability via economics. It's trump's kind of nationalism that will harm stability and create conflict. Fortunately not enough businesses and consumers care about his politics.
One World order is God O the globe first.

Theists who own all humans historic problems are civilization owners builders inventors to pursue energy for machine life. Not humans life.

A global idea says O earth is equal for everyone first. To quote hence don't believe in separation. Being scientific theism of causes.

To know and understand all humans past life wrong choices...
Blasting..to blow.

Bible warning about Trump and Trump ET. The sciences cause.

Nuclear first. Adding onto by new machine sciences. To increase the sacrifice of the cross of science. Earths heart core irradiation released.

As man adding+ did not own what they theoried first as God O earths mass.
 

mangalavara

नमस्कार
Premium Member
Because her post was a series of pronouncements about what God wants.

It could be the case that @Meandflower posted pronouncements about what God wants, or she simply posted statements that many people say about religion.

How would that necessarily make her not a self-appointed spokesperson for God?

I think a spokesperson for God would say something like, 'God has appointed me to do this.' Even a self-appointed spokesperson for God would say something like that. So far, she hasn't.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Ergo, God wants/wanted conflict - given that this is what we have had since religions originated as to human beliefs and behaviour. Or one might conclude God is not all-knowing and just gambled as to many different religions not being a problem. :oops:

Most conflicts in history were because of political/secular matters.
 

Repox

Truth Seeker
God wants different religions to exist. God wants all human to live in peace with each other. God want us to learn to be kind to each other no matter what religion a person believes in. God has no spesific religion. God is behind different religions

Any thoughts? Do you agree or disagree?

There is earth and there is heaven. In a democratic society, the goal is for everyone to get along, so, as long as everyone gets along, multiple religions won't change the social order. However, in heaven it's a different matter. There is no evidence in the Bible for God tolerating pagan gods. For the two Gods in a sphere, the purpose of creating angels was for companionship. So, it would defeat the purpose of heaven if multiple religions existed. It would be those who are loyal to the two Gods in a sphere, and those who believe in other gods, or pagan gods. I can't conceive of peace in heaven with so many pagan religions. They would, of course, be pagan religions. We know from God's comments in the Old Testament, that He deplores pagan worship and pagan gods. It would be the same in heaven. The two Gods have already been confronted with disorder in heaven when Satan attacked and hurt the other angels. By revolting against God, Satan became a pagan god, or an enemy of the two Gods. Therefore, based on what I know, and what we know from the Old Testament, God would reject all other religions, but his own, which is himself! You either worship the Old Testament Lord or you cease to exist. Oh, yes, we can debate the validity of those other gods. I accept the Old Testament Lord as the one and only God. All other gods are pagan.
 
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