God wants you to murder your kids?

[junior]

i can't take this anymore. it's like talking to my mother. peace.

junior,
Chicago

 

[McBell]

get to hot for you?

 

[Super Universe]

Human religion does not represent God. Instead it represents people, priests and their following.

God isn't in to groups. He's into individuals and anyone who looks to another individual to tell them about God, well, it's like a parent who asks a stranger about what their kids are like.

 

[Darkness]

my idiocy is not open to debate here. boy, some people are seriously deficient in discussion skills. i was hoping i would find some intelligent, adult insight here.

i do not denounce organized religion based on a single incident--i denounce it based on its entire history. i denounce it because, on broad scale, it does more harm than good, all in the name of supernatural forces that do not exist. practice what you like. pray to any god or any demon you like, as long as you aren't hurting or repressing other people. ok?

I am sick and tired of arrogant, insolent attitudes from Atheists, that is why I attacked you. Can't people be bloody civil and forge a relationship with the peoples on this forum before saying, Religion is evil. This forum is supposed to bring us closer together and help us understand each other.

can someone please explain to a poor atheist why we are supposed to give credit to a religion that murders kids for loving kids from other faiths?

Who is giving credit to a religion which supports murdering kids for loving kids? We can support peaceful Islam without supporting radical malevolent Islam. This is why I see you attacking religion in general instead of targeting the malevolent. Realize that Islam is merely a general name and that not all Muslims think alike. That is why I said, "do not denounce religion because of a single horrific incident." You appeared to be treating this as a maxim.

 

[Bishka]

i can't take this anymore. it's like talking to my mother. peace.

junior,
Chicago

You are joking right? Just because someone points out a fallacy, misrepresentation, or problem with your argument you leave? And you wanted to discuss this like adults?

 

[bflydad]

Two questions:

1. Since when have Christianity and Islam represented all religion? I could be mistaken but I am not aware of any wars being fought in the name of Hinduism or Buddhism, Confucism, Taoism, etc. Also, while certainly Pagans have fought each other, I do not believe they ever claimed to have done it because their Gods told them to (although they may have asked their Gods to help them).

2. There is a huge difference between radical Islam and Christianity and mainstream Islam and Christianity. I think it is when people start reading holy books literally (with the claim that they are not interpretting) and taking the books out of the context in which they were written that bad things happen.

 

[Pah]

Does not the Christian bible tell parents to have their children stoned when the children dishonor the parents?

 

[Darkness]

Does not the Christian bible tell parents to have their children stoned when the children dishonor the parents?

Sometime along those lines, yet Christians do not condone this sort of behavior. It only matters how Christians interperet their religious text, not what you or anyone else thinks it says. I see this a lot with arrogant believers and non-believers alike. They try to tell other people what they believe.

 

[Truth_Faith13]

i can't take this anymore. it's like talking to my mother. peace.

junior,
Chicago

Ok you might what to check the title! "General Religious Debates". We are all entitled to our opinions. This is a religious forum so obviously you will come up against people who defend religion. Most of the athiests on this forum get this, I we can have some lovely discussions! You obviously dont and seem to want people to agree with you or you run away! And you think we are not adults? :areyoucra

 

[ChristineES]

i can't take this anymore. it's like talking to my mother. peace.

junior,
Chicago

If you want to start a debate, you have to expect that there will be people who will disagree with you. If you can't, then don't start a debate.

 

[Dr. Nosophoros]

You might want to look up the ten commandments.... see now what does one say...
Thou shall not KILL!!!!!!

When Moses descended Mount Sinai with the Ten Commandments one of the first things God ordered his believers to do was to slay all the non-believers, I guess that wasn't killing it was just killing. Killing another human was only considered murder if a believer was killed, all else were fair game, ideas have consequences.

 

[McBell]

i can't take this anymore. it's like talking to my mother. peace.

junior,
Chicago

Wow.
I mean wow.
The only conclusion I can draw from this post is that his mother is not the idiot he wants/thinks/needs/believes her to be.

I wonder how crushing this has to be for his world view... ..?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Killing another human was only considered murder if a believer was killed, all else were fair game, ideas have consequences.

Where do you get this irresponsible garbage?

 

[Luke_17:2]

I'll be darned... A thread actually bashing Islam for a change...

The problems with junior's first post are obvious.

 

[fullyveiled muslimah]

A thread actually bashing Islam for a change...

For a change? Where've you been under a rock somewhere?

 

[Don Penguinoini]

Look, islam isnt religion, it is a religion. All the religions of the world make the word religion. Get it right.

 

[anders]

I'll be darned... A thread actually bashing Islam for a change...

The problems with junior's first post are obvious.

One of junior's and your probably several problems is that you don't realize that Yazidism isn't Islam or religion in general. Honour killings don't follow religions, they are mainly cultural. You'll find them among Moslems as well as in different factions of Christians, and, like in the Yazidi atrociosity, others. The only Scripture I know that advocates killing of disobedient children is the Tanakh/OT.

 

[Luke_17:2]

I said that the problems with his post are obvious. You did see that part of my shorty post didn't you?

 

[nawab]

Peace, mercy and blessing of allah be on all of you.

brother, you are a junior as your name reflects.

this is not a modern tale let me tell you all a modern tale

Guy and girl meets on the same day, have sex , married in the morning and divorced on the second, girl gets pregnet, guy meets the kid and the innocent kid is caught up in family problems between 2 fathers and 2 mothers. this is Hollywood everyday tale and i have lived in uK for 2 years every girl i met was either 1/2/3/4 times divorced or lost their virginity at 13-14 years. Old people waiting to die in thier houses alone, thier children do not even remember if they ever had parent.

this is a typical everyday lifestyle in western society so called civilaised nations of the world.

Our women have more dignity than western women in their own western lands, who gets raped, who gets insulted on the streets by getting called yo ****, hey Woe and so on. no wonder more western women are coming to islam than Guys - maybe you know
has something to do with ignorance.

We give all human rights, we do not recopgnize your human rights, we have our own human rights which are still better than yours. you hav eso many problems in your own land deal with them first and than come and guide us.

This is a western sickness about inferiority complex the westerners think they are the best and everything is inferior to them.

Nawab Asad

it's no secret that money and religion are the oldest evils in the world and the main reasons for the total histories of war, murder, and political corruption. but though want of money may be inherent, religious belief is a cycle that is continued via parenting. it is passed on by the generations and is often used to enhance people's lives. unfortunately, it doesn't always end where it should.

here is a classic tale: girl meets boy, they fall in love, they have a family and live happily ever after.

here is a modern religious tale: girl meets boy, they fall in love, girl has her skull publicly crushed by her family.

is this what we should expect from religious Middle Easterners now? forcing women to cover themselves and denying them basic human rights is pretty extreme. can someone please explain to a poor atheist why we are supposed to give credit to a religion that murders kids for loving kids from other faiths? is this an isolated incident, involving a community of people who all drank the same tainted water, making them insane? or is this the new standard in Iraqi religious behavior?

 

[gnomon]

Peace, mercy and blessing of allah be on all of you.

brother, you are a junior as your name reflects.

this is not a modern tale let me tell you all a modern tale

Guy and girl meets on the same day, have sex , married in the morning and divorced on the second, girl gets pregnet, guy meets the kid and the innocent kid is caught up in family problems between 2 fathers and 2 mothers. this is Hollywood everyday tale and i have lived in uK for 2 years every girl i met was either 1/2/3/4 times divorced or lost their virginity at 13-14 years. Old people waiting to die in thier houses alone, thier children do not even remember if they ever had parent.

this is a typical everyday lifestyle in western society so called civilaised nations of the world.

Our women have more dignity than western women in their own western lands, who gets raped, who gets insulted on the streets by getting called yo ****, hey Woe and so on. no wonder more western women are coming to islam than Guys - maybe you know
has something to do with ignorance.

We give all human rights, we do not recopgnize your human rights, we have our own human rights which are still better than yours. you hav eso many problems in your own land deal with them first and than come and guide us.

This is a western sickness about inferiority complex the westerners think they are the best and everything is inferior to them.

Nawab Asad

Countering generalized nonsense with more generalized nonsense is well....nonsense.

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