Bishka
Veteran Member
This is something my Christian History teacher brough up in class today. I'll post an article that he referred us to. I wonder on your thoughts on the subject.
[size=+1]Un-Conditional Love?[/size]
[size=+1]A Critical Review of a Pop Religious Truism[/size][size=+1] [/size]
Scripture clearly teaches that God's love (phileo, agape, aheb, ahabah, etc.) is unfailing, undeserved, and unilateral (completely one-sided in initiation). But is God's love without condition--I.E.: UN-conditional?
On this we should consider three things. 1) Where did this idea come from? 2) Is it consistent with Scripture? and 3) Is it false prophecy?
On 1), you will not have to look back very far, as this is uniquely an American, "modern" doctrine. It is never once mentioned in Scripture, nor do any of the church fathers use the phrase.
In fact, my best efforts point to the 1960's drug culture as the first time the words unconditional and love were put together in any language. (Please correct me if you can produce an example before the hippies coined the term, but so far nobody has; and my own research points to the LSD culture of the 1960s as the first use.) After the drugs wore off, psychology flirted with the pop-phrase in the 1970's in the "transactional analysis" fad, but this was ephemeral and quickly dropped from view. Just about then a few susceptible christian teachers stepped in and took the baton, and the rest is history.
With this apparent dubious pedigree we must ask the obvious question: is this an idea from above, or from below?
On 2), is the implicit idea that the phrase asserts consistent with Scripture? If we take the phrase in its plain-sense meaning, certainly not. If unconditional can cohabit the same phrase as love without canceling it (when not on LSD, that is), then why did Jesus bother declaring the conditions? "You must be born again." etc.
Think about it. In a typical teaching of Jesus, much of what he said were the life-giving conditions of moving into a loving relationship with the Father. The catch-phrase unconditional love strips these words right out of our Savior's mouth. "Hey Jesus, you can't say that! Don't you know that God's agape love is unconditional!"
John 8:31-32 (NIV) ...Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." Get it? IF/THEN is a condition. So is UNLESS. And this is the kind of thing Jesus often said. Uh Oh!
On 3), we should consider the possibility that this new phrase might be a wolf in sheep's clothing. Could unconditional love be Satan's latest repackaging of the "peace, peace" message that has always been the essence of false prophecy? Of course, Satan would never be that clever, to deny the very words of God with a subtle twist of phrase? Would he?
Due to a Bible Study on our site which calls for repentance from witchcraft, we get a lot of "flames" from wiccans and pagans. A typical complaint is to lecture us that "God's love is unconditional", thus justifying witchcraft--or whatever--since God loves everyone eternally no matter what they believe. By this way of thinking, it makes no difference which "god" you worship since God's unconditional love would never allow Him to send anyone to hell. Condemning people to hell is not exactly a loving thing to do for those so sent, is it? So, it does not matter what people think or believe or do. God's unconditional love means that we will all go to heaven.
[size=+1]Un-Conditional Love?[/size]
[size=+1]A Critical Review of a Pop Religious Truism[/size][size=+1] [/size]
Scripture clearly teaches that God's love (phileo, agape, aheb, ahabah, etc.) is unfailing, undeserved, and unilateral (completely one-sided in initiation). But is God's love without condition--I.E.: UN-conditional?
On this we should consider three things. 1) Where did this idea come from? 2) Is it consistent with Scripture? and 3) Is it false prophecy?
On 1), you will not have to look back very far, as this is uniquely an American, "modern" doctrine. It is never once mentioned in Scripture, nor do any of the church fathers use the phrase.
In fact, my best efforts point to the 1960's drug culture as the first time the words unconditional and love were put together in any language. (Please correct me if you can produce an example before the hippies coined the term, but so far nobody has; and my own research points to the LSD culture of the 1960s as the first use.) After the drugs wore off, psychology flirted with the pop-phrase in the 1970's in the "transactional analysis" fad, but this was ephemeral and quickly dropped from view. Just about then a few susceptible christian teachers stepped in and took the baton, and the rest is history.
With this apparent dubious pedigree we must ask the obvious question: is this an idea from above, or from below?
On 2), is the implicit idea that the phrase asserts consistent with Scripture? If we take the phrase in its plain-sense meaning, certainly not. If unconditional can cohabit the same phrase as love without canceling it (when not on LSD, that is), then why did Jesus bother declaring the conditions? "You must be born again." etc.
Think about it. In a typical teaching of Jesus, much of what he said were the life-giving conditions of moving into a loving relationship with the Father. The catch-phrase unconditional love strips these words right out of our Savior's mouth. "Hey Jesus, you can't say that! Don't you know that God's agape love is unconditional!"
John 8:31-32 (NIV) ...Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." Get it? IF/THEN is a condition. So is UNLESS. And this is the kind of thing Jesus often said. Uh Oh!
On 3), we should consider the possibility that this new phrase might be a wolf in sheep's clothing. Could unconditional love be Satan's latest repackaging of the "peace, peace" message that has always been the essence of false prophecy? Of course, Satan would never be that clever, to deny the very words of God with a subtle twist of phrase? Would he?
Due to a Bible Study on our site which calls for repentance from witchcraft, we get a lot of "flames" from wiccans and pagans. A typical complaint is to lecture us that "God's love is unconditional", thus justifying witchcraft--or whatever--since God loves everyone eternally no matter what they believe. By this way of thinking, it makes no difference which "god" you worship since God's unconditional love would never allow Him to send anyone to hell. Condemning people to hell is not exactly a loving thing to do for those so sent, is it? So, it does not matter what people think or believe or do. God's unconditional love means that we will all go to heaven.