So you keep asserting without evidence.
I'm not rebellious against God. I practice virtues and that is all any God worthy of worship would desire.
In my opinion.
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Gods personal name
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In my opinion.
kjw47
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Sheldon
Veteran Member
Your opinions are relentlessly vapid, and meaningless.
Brian2
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The Abrahamic Covenant seems to be a Covenant of promise to Abraham and his descendants to give the land to to them and Abraham and the descendants were to be circumcised as a sign of this covenant.
The Mosaic Covenant does seem to be a continuation of the Abrahamic Covenant but with the Law added on so that Israel would know how God expected them to behave in the promised land.
Does the Law change the nature of Covenant into a conditional covenant, conditional on the keeping of the Law, or is the keeping of the Law more a sign of the sincerity of the faith the people have?
In this respect it would be like the good works in Christianity, not a means of salvation but as something which showed the sincerity and true faith of people.
Brian2
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I would say that most of what sceptics call errant nonsense is misunderstanding of what the Bible is saying.
Brian2
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Surely John 17:26 means that Jesus revealed what God is like to His disciples.
Jesus as far as we know has not told us or the disciples a literal name and the pronunciation of YHWH is not known so there was no new revelation by Jesus about a literal name.
You could argue a conspiracy theory about the taking of the name from the New Testament however.
But where the Name is in the OT is known and shown in translations.
kjw47
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kjw47
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and your water bucket is filled with holes--- senseless conversations you carry on. So instead of me proving my words-you prove them wrong. without your personal opinion.
kjw47
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Then do not use-Job, Jeremiah, Joshua-- but you do. Yu have no clue if Jehovah is wrong. I say God made his name known. And always has. Like in Ezekial about 20 x it says--They will have to know i am YHWH(Jehovah)-- the whole world will know very soon and oops will not cut it.
Brian2
Veteran Member
Because it (ie the Bible) is a collection of the opinions of men, and has caused the confusion of thousands of different sects, unlike well evidenced science which generally produces consensus.
If there is anything which is God's own truth it is science, not the Bible.
In my opinion.
kjw47
Well-Known Member
Satan caused the confusion. He is very powerful. He controlled the weather to kill Jobs children. He turned Pharoahs religious leaders staffs into snakes. And he has mislead 99% minimum throughout mortal history. He is posing as every false god. 99% of all religion claiming to be christian are his. They do not listen to Jesus.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
True.
The founders of Orthodox Christianity put their own words "into his mouth".
logos .. trinity .. homoousios .. hypostasis.
It seems that Jesus was a professor of Greek philosophy.
Gezellig
Member
If people didn't have first and last names?
Gezellig
Member
Is archaeology a science?
There is a biblical archaeology that uses the Bible. If you turn to her, you can probably find out from her about the facts of using the name of God.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
You again are contradicting what you originally posted as you kept claiming that one Name must be used to reference God. Thus, you're not making any sense whatsoever with your double-speak.
Again, you've posted a double-standard and for some reason you can't even see it.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Yes, we do because there's no "J" sound in Hebrew, thus YHWH is the correct letter and pronounced the same as in English.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Yes, as I misread the post I responded to, so thanks for the heads-up.