Gods personal name

[kjw47]

You again are contradicting what you originally posted as you kept claiming that one Name must be used to reference God. Thus, you're not making any sense whatsoever with your double-speak.

Again, you've posted a double-standard and for some reason you can't even see it.

I didnt say one name had to be used--His name is different in many languages. I speak english.

 

[kjw47]

Yes, we do because there's no "J" sound in Hebrew, thus YHWH is the correct letter and pronounced the same as in English.

His name is pronounced different in many different languages as all names are. We dont speak Hebrew, if you choose to speak his name in Hebrew there is nothing wrong with that. i speak english. Thus most on earth use-Job, Jeremiah, Joshua, Jacob, etc. As you do. They are still who they are.

 

[metis]

I didnt say one name had to be used--His name is different in many languages. I speak english.

But here's what you wrote in your OP:
"Here are some facts few probably know. They are hidden from most that claim to be those that serve Jesus.

In the OT, Gods personal name was removed( making them altered versions) In nearly 6800 spots. Every spot where- GOD or LORD all capitols. Wicked removed it, they had no right. God inspired his name there."

His name is pronounced different in many different languages as all names are. We dont speak Hebrew, if you choose to speak his name in Hebrew there is nothing wrong with that. i speak english. Thus most on earth use-Job, Jeremiah, Joshua, Jacob, etc. As you do. They are still who they are.

Maybe let me know when you decide to get over your hypocrisy as you continue to try and have it both ways with your disingenuous political correctness on the use of God's Name as you keep contradicting yourself.

 

[danieldemol]

Satan caused the confusion.

There is no evidence that Satan exists, however there is plenty of evidence that the Bible exists and that it is contradictory, and that people cherrypick the parts they like to suit their own biases - Therefore it is a far simpler explanation that the Bible is the cause of confusion than scapegoating an imaginary unevidenced force such as Satan.

Are you familiar with Occam's razor?
Occam's razor - Wikipedia

He is very powerful. He controlled the weather to kill Jobs children. He turned Pharoahs religious leaders staffs into snakes. And he has mislead 99% minimum throughout mortal history. He is posing as every false god.

I disagree with all of the above unevidenced assertion.

99% of all religion claiming to be christian are his. They do not listen to Jesus

I disagree, I think 100% of Christian religions including JWs are selectively listening to the contradictory messages attributed to Jesus by the scribes who wrote His story to confirm their beliefs.

In my opinion.

 

[kjw47]

But here's what you wrote in your OP:
"Here are some facts few probably know. They are hidden from most that claim to be those that serve Jesus.

In the OT, Gods personal name was removed( making them altered versions) In nearly 6800 spots. Every spot where- GOD or LORD all capitols. Wicked removed it, they had no right. God inspired his name there."

Maybe let me know when you decide to get over your hypocrisy as you continue to try and have it both ways with your disingenuous political correctness on the use of God's Name as you keep contradicting yourself.

What are you talking about? GOD or LORD are titles not his name. You seem confused.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

The Mosaic Covenant does seem to be a continuation of the Abrahamic Covenant but with the Law added on so that Israel would know how God expected them to behave in the promised land.

So we agree. One covenant, everlasting.

 

[kjw47]

There is no evidence that Satan exists, however there is plenty of evidence that the Bible exists and that it is contradictory, and that people cherrypick the parts they like to suit their own biases - Therefore it is a far simpler explanation that the Bible is the cause of confusion than scapegoating an imaginary unevidenced force such as Satan.

Are you familiar with Occam's razor?
Occam's razor - Wikipedia


I disagree with all of the above unevidenced assertion.


I disagree, I think 100% of Christian religions including JWs are selectively listening to the contradictory messages attributed to Jesus by the scribes who wrote His story to confirm their beliefs.

In my opinion.

Only Gods opinion counts in the end. The bible writers stood up for Jesus, they left the apostocised Israelite religion. To this day are apostocised.

 

[danieldemol]

Is archaeology a science?

Yes, however I dont think archaeology agrees with you.

'Yahweh[a] was the national god of ancient Israel and Judah.[3] His origins reach at least to the early Iron Age, and likely to the Late Bronze Age.[4] In the oldest biblical literature, he is a storm-and-warrior deity[5] who leads the heavenly army against Israel's enemies;[6] at that time the Israelites worshipped him alongside a variety of Canaanite gods and goddesses, including El, Asherah and Baal;[7]'

Source: Yahweh - Wikipedia

There is a biblical archaeology that uses the Bible. If you turn to her, you can probably find out from her about the facts of using the name of God.

Archaeology is not a singular person, it is a collection of opinions of archaeologists containing varying degrees of consensus.

In my opinion.

 

[danieldemol]

Only Gods opinion counts in the end.

Precisely why the opinion of the men who wrote the Bible doesn't count, because it is not God's opinion - which i would insist we can only discover by examining evidence, not the imaginary unevidenced assertions of Bible writing men.

The bible writers stood up for Jesus,

So men stood up for another man. Big deal.

They left the apostocised Israelite religion. To this day are apostocised.

Your assertion that the Israelites are apostates is unevidenced.

In my opinion.

 

[metis]

What are you talking about? GOD or LORD are titles not his name. You seem confused.

"God" is not a "title".

Again, you keep missing the point, namely that there are roughly 15 names for God in the Tanakh, plus the fact that the JW's have turned this into a nonsensical circus. Jesus clearly said that the essential belief for us was not publicly stating God's politically correct name but was his answer to which was the greatest commandment?

Either you believe in Jesus or you don't, and the unfortunate fact is that you clearly have far more of a belief in your Governing Body than you do in Jesus and what he taught us.

 

[kjw47]

"God" is not a "title".

Again, you keep missing the point, namely that there are roughly 15 names for God in the Tanakh, plus the fact that the JW's have turned this into a nonsensical circus. Jesus clearly said that the essential belief for us was not publicly stating God's politically correct name but was his answer to which was the greatest commandment?

Either you believe in Jesus or you don't, and the unfortunate fact is that you clearly have far more of a belief in your Governing Body than you do in Jesus and what he taught us.

God is a title -YHWH(Jehovah) is his personal name. I studied Jesus carefully his teachings back my teachers all the way. Like this truth he tells everyone--At John 17:3 in prayer to his Father tells everyone-The one who sent him= Father( John 5:30) is THE ONLY TRUE GOD. And at John 17:3 Jesus assures--to get eternal life, one must know the Father and know Jesus. And when Jesus says his Father is the only true God-his real teachers teach just that and the real followers believe him over dogma. And thats the real Reason Jesus teaches-He has a God like we do his Father-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--It takes believing Jesus. Every real follower does just that everytime-FIRST.
The governing body teach both of those facts as well as this truth Jesus taught--Blessed are the meek for they will inherit the EARTH.

 

[metis]

God is a title

Oh really? Then what is the "title" that "God" supposedly refers to?

 

[kjw47]

God is a title -YHWH(Jehovah) is his personal name. I studied Jesus carefully his teachings back my teachers all the way. Like this truth he tells everyone--At John 17:3 in prayer to his Father tells everyone-The one who sent him= Father( John 5:30) is THE ONLY TRUE GOD. And at John 17:3 Jesus assures--to get eternal life, one must know the Father and know Jesus. And when Jesus says his Father is the only true God-his real teachers teach just that and the real followers believe him over dogma. And thats the real Reason Jesus teaches-He has a God like we do his Father-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--It takes believing Jesus. Every real follower does just that everytime-FIRST.

Oh really? Then what is the "title" that "God" supposedly refers to?

Psalm 83:18 explains that-- That people may know, that you, whose name is YHWH(Jehovah) you alone are the most high over all the earth.= the supreme being = God his title.

 

[metis]

Psalm 83:18 explains that-- That people may know, that you, whose name is YHWH(Jehovah) you alone are the most high over all the earth.= the supreme being = God his title.

You did not answer the question as to which "title" does "God" refer to? You can't because "God" is NOT a "title"-- it's a name.

 

[kjw47]

You did not answer the question as to which "title" does "God" refer to? You can't because "God" is NOT a "title"-- it's a name.

YHWH( Jehovah) is the name of God. In Fact in Ezekial it says about 20 x--They will have to know i am YHWH(Jehovah)--trinity translations removed his name-they had no right. It was in every spot in the OT where-GOD or LORD all capitols is. Nearly 6800 spots. Then they turned around and condemned the ones who put it back.

 

[Brian2]

So we agree. One covenant, everlasting.

And the New Covenant would also be a continuation of the Abrahamic Covenant. A Covenant of promise and received by faith with the written law changed to an internal law with God guiding.
In this way a person who is led by the Spirit can fulfil the requirements of the Law even when the person might not know exactly what is in the Mosaic Law.
But of course the Law is not just the commands and statutes given to Moses, it is everything in God's Word.
Good works is what demonstrates faith, not what saves us through our own righteousness.
Actually Jeremiah tells us that Jer 23:5Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will raise up for David a righteous Branch, and He will reign wisely as King and will administer justice and righteousness in the land. 6In His days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell securely. And this is His name by which He will be called: The LORD Our Righteousness.

 

[muhammad_isa]

Good works is what demonstrates faith, not what saves us through our own righteousness

That's true, I would agree.
However, how can we demonstrate what is righteous, if we have no knowledge of the law?

 

[metis]

YHWH( Jehovah) is the name of God. In Fact in Ezekial it says about 20 x--They will have to know i am YHWH(Jehovah)--trinity translations removed his name-they had no right. It was in every spot in the OT where-GOD or LORD all capitols is. Nearly 6800 spots. Then they turned around and condemned the ones who put it back.

You obviously have the right to believe in what you've been brainwashed to believe by the Governing Body even if the reality is quite different.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

And the New Covenant would also be a continuation of the Abrahamic Covenant

When it comes.

I'm really surprised to hear a Christian say that the New Covenant will be a continuation of the Abrahamic covenant. Usually you guys want to say that its a whole different thing, where you are saved by faith through grace, etc. It makes me wonder if you know what the Abrahamic covenant is.

 

[Brian2]

That's true, I would agree.
However, how can we demonstrate what is righteous, if we have no knowledge of the law?

Romans 13:9The commandments “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet,” and any other commandments, are summed up in this one decree: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no wrong to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

Jesus also said something similar.