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EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Then you attribute all this hate and violence to an imaginary being called Satan? LOL . . .
It's more like all the hate and violence is because certain religions have invented this duality of Good & Evil deities pitted against one another. we actual Satanists cause practically 0% of the problems in this world, while religion causes much more.
EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Pffft . . . you are so confused.
kjw47
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False religions you mean. Jesus taught-love, peace and unity, return evil for evil to no one. That is exactly what his 1 religion does. 99% of all religions claiming to be his, throw him away to do the deeds they have done.
kjw47
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EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
That is a load of BS
1 Chronicles 21
-God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people
Deuteronomy 3
-God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. -He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value
Joshua 6
-He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses”
-In (Judges 21) He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead
2 Kings 10:18-27
God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!
Judges 21:10-24
God has an entire town killed and the virgins repeatedly raped, and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more.
Numbers 31:7-18
"They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men . . . Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Deuteronomy 20:10-14
"As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you."
Deuteronomy 21:10-14
"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house . . . After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife."
In total God kills 371,186 people directly
Satan - 0
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Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has “come not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
Families will be torn apart because of Jesus. “Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.” (Matthew 10:21)
Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn’t care for his preaching. (Matthew 11:20)
Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. (Matthew 15:4-7)
Abandon your wife and children for Jesus and he’ll give your a big reward. Jesus asks that his followers abandon their children to follow him. To leave your child is abuse, it’s called neglect, pure and simple. (Matthew 19:29)
Jesus says that those who have been less fortunate in this life will have it even worse in the life to come. (Mark 4:25)
Jesus okays beating slaves. (Luke 12:47)
kjw47
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God kills the wicked. Many teachings were symbolic.
Any one that knows God knows there is no literal place of eternal suffering.
EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
God is an idea, and a bad one. The sooner you understand and accept this, the sooner you begin to live your life to its fullest potential.
The Name of God
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1443443/jewish/Why-Dont-Jews-Say-Gds-Name.htm
Basically, it's very sacred and is not used except in prayer in order not to take God's name in vain and there are also issues around the correct pronunciation.
kjw47
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Time is running out quickly. I will stay with God thanks. Gods kingdom is mankinds only remaining hope--The wicked rich are destroying Gods earth, he will bring them to ruin.
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
It's sad that so many of his worshipers don't live those things out, but the opposite.
Dogknox20
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kjw47 You are confused... Christians have ALWASY taught; Jesus is God! The JW's teach different then Christians they teach Jesus is NOT God!
Christians have always taught there is but one God, not many! The JW's teach many gods!
The JW's were started by a man Charles Taze Russell in the 1870's Long after Jesus and his followers (Christians) were established!
2 Samuel 7:12 When your days are over and you rest with your ancestors, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, your own flesh and blood, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. When he does wrong, I will punish him with a rod wielded by men, with floggings inflicted by human hands.
kjw47 Jesus built his Church on ROCK not on sand.. Jesus promised his Church will never fail!
Jesus is ALWAYS WITH his Church and with Christians to the very end of the world.. Christians are Christ Followers!
Matthew 28:20 teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.
Jesus is ALWAYS WITH his Church; with the ONLY Church he established before he left earth! Jesus is ALWAYS with Christians until the end of the world.. THIS...
kjw47 this means he cannot be with the church Charles Taze Russell started in the 1870's Long after Jesus established his Church on ROCK! The Anti-Christ is anti-Christian! The Anti-Christ is Satan! Satan would never ever use a Cross a Christian symbol on any of his churches! It was by the cross that Satan was defeated! The Cross is a Symbol Christians use on there Churches it is a symbol Christians make on themselves. .. IF..
kjw47 if you see a Cross you know beyond all doubt it was used by Christian! Satan hates the cross, he will not allow his followers to use a cross! The JW is not Christian they reject Christian teaching!
kjw47
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kjw47
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undeniable fact--From Moses on up until this very day, while serving the true God, The Israelite religion teach, serve and worship a single being God-YHWH(Jehovah)- this God was taught to Jesus when he attended their places of worship, as was every bible writer. A man named Terrillion in the 2nd century was considering God as a trinity-WHY? Because a single being God was being served. At the religion that came out of Romes first council of Nicea in 325, no trinity god was being taught. It was added later at another council. These are undeniable facts.
The real reason Jesus teaches-John 20:17- He has a God like we do, his Father=YHWH(Jehovah)
and Revelation 3:12, while back in heaven-he stresses the fact he has a God 4 x in a single paragraph. It takes believing Jesus over errors. Few will. Who will you believe?
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Excuse me? Everlasting means lasting forever.
kjw47
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Matthew23:39 shows different. Spiritual Israel is now Gods chosen. Literal Israel sent their own Messiah to his death out of hatred. Its been over 1970 years, they have outright refused to do verse 39. They were warned what was coming to them and over one million were slaughtered by the romans in 70 ad. The city was surrounded for quite awhile, the food ran out quickly. From what i understand they started eating the children who had died.
Dogknox20
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Yes Jesus has a Father Jesus is a man! There is NOT one person born who does NOT have a Father, Jesus was Born a MAN his father is God; His Mother is Mary! Jesus is the Man/God!
kjw47 Christians reject any idea of "Many gods"! Jews also the same, they also reject "Many gods" Christians believe in "ONE God"!
The Watch Tower added the letter "A" to John 1 they also changed the letter "G" to a small case g! They reject a single God for many gods they are NOT Christian!
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was "A" god. ...... NOT ONE...
kjw47 not one of over sixty scripture interpretations have it interpreted as the "New World Translation" NOT ONE!
Thomas is a Christian he tells you Jesus is his God!
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
kjw47 Jesus tells you Christians are BLESSED he is also saying you are NOT blessed!
Christians have always believed "Jesus is God"! The Watch Tower 1900 years AFTER Jesus rejects what Christians have always believed!
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I dont' really care what Matthew says. The New Testament contradicts the Torah, and is therefore obviously not from God. Quoting Matthew to me is like quoting the Vedas, or the Quran, or the Book of Mormon.
Sheldon
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That's a claim not objective evidence, what does it even mean? My heart is a pump made of muscle, can you ever talk plainly? If you are claiming i am being deceived then say so, but I'm going to need a lot more than just the claim, before i take it remotely seriously.
kjw47
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Jesus himself teaches-John 17:3--The one who sent him= the Father( John 5:30) is THE ONLY TRUE GOD.. i will believe Jesus you make your choice who you believe.
No the religion that came out Rome twisted John 1:1-- to fit false council teachings. Even in their own encyclopedia it states-- The assimilation of a trinity god was not established into a christians life until near the end of the 4th century. the new catholic encyclopedia- 1967-Vol XIV- PG 299
A false council creation misleading billions-satan beat them centuries ago. Because they will not believe fact over error.