Gods personal name

[kjw47]

That's a claim not objective evidence, what does it even mean? My heart is a pump made of muscle, can you ever talk plainly? If you are claiming i am being deceived then say so, but I'm going to need a lot more than just the claim, before i take it remotely seriously.

If God hit you over the head and told you, you would say the opposite.

 

[kjw47]

I dont' really care what Matthew says. The New Testament contradicts the Torah, and is therefore obviously not from God. Quoting Matthew to me is like quoting the Vedas, or the Quran, or the Book of Mormon.

Trinity translation has many errors. The NEW world translation has fixed them.

 

[Sheldon]

Sheldon said: ↑
That's a claim not objective evidence, what does it even mean? My heart is a pump made of muscle, can you ever talk plainly? If you are claiming i am being deceived then say so, but I'm going to need a lot more than just the claim, before i take it remotely seriously.

If God hit you over the head and told you, you would say the opposite.

That's another claim, still not even the pretence of any objective evidence for your original claim though.

 

[kjw47]

That's another claim, still not even the pretence of any objective evidence for your original claim though.[/QUOTE


exactly just the opposite of what is said. Have a good day. I will pray on your behalf.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Trinity translation has many errors. The NEW world translation has fixed them.

Your translation is no more the word of God for me than anyone else's. It STILL contradicts the Torah.

 

[kjw47]

Your translation is no more the word of God for me than anyone else's. It STILL contradicts the Torah.

Where-prove it

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Where-prove it

You are the one making the claim. It is up to you to prove your mere translation is the word of God.

ALL translations are inferior to the originals -- you ALWAYS lose something in the translation. This is common knowledge, I shouldn't even have to mention it.

 

[Bree]

The tales in the Bible are fictional and rejected by authentic scientific enquiry.


No God has not, you are merely asserting things about God which are untrue.

In my opinion.

on what are your opinions based?

 

[Bree]

The Name of God

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1443443/jewish/Why-Dont-Jews-Say-Gds-Name.htm

Basically, it's very sacred and is not used except in prayer in order not to take God's name in vain and there are also issues around the correct pronunciation.

if God did not want his name to be spoken, why would tell Moses his name? Why would Moses say at Deut 32:3
"For I will declare the name of Jehovah.+Tell about the greatness of our God!+"

It was an isrealites duty to declare the name of Jehovah. Do you think hiding the name of God is an honorable thing to do?

 

[Brian2]

When babylon the great falls( worldwide false religion) that locks the door. the tribulation starts. The bible says Gods put it in their hearts to do this. The 7 headed beast with 10 horns will do it. The nations hand over power to them for 1 hour( short time) it says. These events will occur just like a thief in the night.

I just wonder how many generations will have to come and go before JWs realise that 1914 was another mistake.
Matt 24:33 So also, when you see all these things, you will know that He is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened.

But of course a generation is not a generation any more according to the Watchtower and "Millions now living will never die" has disappeared from the front of the Watchtower Magazine. Do you think they really believe the end is coming soon?

 

[Brian2]

Luke 12:32) the little flock. So its either 144,000 or the great crowd--there is no doubt its the 144,000-- The remaining ones on earth will go to heaven during the tribulation. Many lived in Jesus day. These are the ones in the first ressurection. The Israelite religion is cut off-Matthew23:38-39--They refuse to do 39-- The writer of Revelation had no clue what the religion would called in the last days-he called them Israel but actually its spiritual Israel meaning Gods chosen.

Don't you believe the OT when it tells us that God will never forget Israel and that Israel is the apple of His eye.
Don't you believe the OT when it says that God is going to fight for Israel.(Zech 14:1-5)
Do you think that when it says that God is going to come with all the holy angels that this is actually going to be Jesus who come with all the holy angels.? (verse 5)
Maybe Jesus comes with the angels and the angels go back to heaven and then God comes with them.
Do you think that when it says that God's feet are going to stand on the Mount of Olives east of Jerusalem (verse 4) that it is really going to be Jesus feet?
After all the OT does say that God is going to come and judge the earth but the NT says that the Father is going to judge no man but has left the judging to the Son.

 

[Brian2]

undeniable fact--From Moses on up until this very day, while serving the true God, The Israelite religion teach, serve and worship a single being God-YHWH(Jehovah)- this God was taught to Jesus when he attended their places of worship, as was every bible writer. A man named Terrillion in the 2nd century was considering God as a trinity-WHY? Because a single being God was being served. At the religion that came out of Romes first council of Nicea in 325, no trinity god was being taught. It was added later at another council. These are undeniable facts.

The real reason Jesus teaches-John 20:17- He has a God like we do, his Father=YHWH(Jehovah)
and Revelation 3:12, while back in heaven-he stresses the fact he has a God 4 x in a single paragraph. It takes believing Jesus over errors. Few will. Who will you believe?

The Father became Jesus' God when Jesus was in the womb (Ps 22:10)
The pre existing Jesus had to take the nature of a servant, iows He was not a servant before He became a man.
The risen Jesus rose as a man and so His Father is still His God.
Nicea was about the deity of Jesus, it was not about the deity of God's Spirit.

 

[Brian2]

Excuse me? Everlasting means lasting forever.

Is the Mosaic Covenant supposed to last forever?
Where is that said?

 

[kjw47]

You are the one making the claim. It is up to you to prove your mere translation is the word of God.

ALL translations are inferior to the originals -- you ALWAYS lose something in the translation. This is common knowledge, I shouldn't even have to mention it.

Those with holy spirit corrected the errors. The ones who live by the errors condemned it.

 

[kjw47]

I just wonder how many generations will have to come and go before JWs realise that 1914 was another mistake.
Matt 24:33 So also, when you see all these things, you will know that He is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened.

But of course a generation is not a generation any more according to the Watchtower and "Millions now living will never die" has disappeared from the front of the Watchtower Magazine. Do you think they really believe the end is coming soon?

1914 was no mistake-- only about their view of a generation. People are starting to murder each other all over the usa. Nothing will get better, only worse. Hatred is raising up very much. satans will. We know its coming soon.
If the world hasnt noticed the door to door work has stopped. That does not stop until the end. its close, Babylon the great( religion) is about to fall.
25 ceos of major Corporations just quit-many politicians have handed in their resignations as well, something big is about to happen.

 

[kjw47]

Don't you believe the OT when it tells us that God will never forget Israel and that Israel is the apple of His eye.
Don't you believe the OT when it says that God is going to fight for Israel.(Zech 14:1-5)
Do you think that when it says that God is going to come with all the holy angels that this is actually going to be Jesus who come with all the holy angels.? (verse 5)
Maybe Jesus comes with the angels and the angels go back to heaven and then God comes with them.
Do you think that when it says that God's feet are going to stand on the Mount of Olives east of Jerusalem (verse 4) that it is really going to be Jesus feet?
After all the OT does say that God is going to come and judge the earth but the NT says that the Father is going to judge no man but has left the judging to the Son.

They sent his son to his death, totally rejecting God and his son in that event. and still to this day they reject Gods will. they are fallen. They refuse to stand back up. Its their fault not Gods. God is the one doing it all through Jesus( Acts 2:22) so in that sense even if its Jesus standing there. He is representing God. Thats the same as God standing there in a sense.

 

[kjw47]

The Father became Jesus' God when Jesus was in the womb (Ps 22:10)
The pre existing Jesus had to take the nature of a servant, iows He was not a servant before He became a man.
The risen Jesus rose as a man and so His Father is still His God.
Nicea was about the deity of Jesus, it was not about the deity of God's Spirit.

Jesus is Gods master worker of Proverbs 8, only the one whom God is creating all other things through deserves that title, The being who came speaks at Prov 8, it is not God speaking.
After Jesus was raised, he walked through a locked door, no flesh does that. They didnt even recognize him when first seeing him. He wasnt in his first body at that point. He is Gods son and can either be flesh at anytime he wants or spirit.
In the OT angels came down as mortal having sex with women and making babies called Nephlim. One of the reasons God flooded the earth to get rid of those giant violent Nephlim.

 

[Brian2]

Luke 12:32) the little flock. So its either 144,000 or the great crowd--there is no doubt its the 144,000-- The remaining ones on earth will go to heaven during the tribulation. Many lived in Jesus day. These are the ones in the first ressurection. The Israelite religion is cut off-Matthew23:38-39--They refuse to do 39-- The writer of Revelation had no clue what the religion would called in the last days-he called them Israel but actually its spiritual Israel meaning Gods chosen.

Matt 23:37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.

The insertion of Jehovah for Lord at the end of verse 39 is not inaccurate as to the OT quote (Ps 118:26) but Matt 23 shows a people who will be happy to see Jesus when He returns. The Jews are not forgotten by God. Jesus comes and saved them from defeat and destruction in war. When they see who it is that is another story however. (Zech 12:10-14)
Also, in case you did not notice, Matt 23:39 shows that people will see Jesus when He returns, as opposed to the Watchtower teaching that Jesus is an invisible spirit and people will not see Him when He returns.

 

[Brian2]

They sent his son to his death, totally rejecting God and his son in that event. and still to this day they reject Gods will. they are fallen. They refuse to stand back up. Its their fault not Gods. God is the one doing it all through Jesus( Acts 2:22) so in that sense even if its Jesus standing there. He is representing God. Thats the same as God standing there in a sense.

Who is coming to judge the earth? The OT says YHWH.
And yes Jesus is God standing there.

 

[Brian2]

Jesus is Gods master worker of Proverbs 8, only the one whom God is creating all other things through deserves that title, The being who came speaks at Prov 8, it is not God speaking.
After Jesus was raised, he walked through a locked door, no flesh does that. They didnt even recognize him when first seeing him. He wasnt in his first body at that point. He is Gods son and can either be flesh at anytime he wants or spirit.
In the OT angels came down as mortal having sex with women and making babies called Nephlim. One of the reasons God flooded the earth to get rid of those giant violent Nephlim.

You are full of JW doctrine but deny the Bible.