Gods personal name

[kjw47]

Matt 23:37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.

The insertion of Jehovah for Lord at the end of verse 39 is not inaccurate as to the OT quote (Ps 118:26) but Matt 23 shows a people who will be happy to see Jesus when He returns. The Jews are not forgotten by God. Jesus comes and saved them from defeat and destruction in war. When they see who it is that is another story however. (Zech 12:10-14)
Also, in case you did not notice, Matt 23:39 shows that people will see Jesus when He returns, as opposed to the Watchtower teaching that Jesus is an invisible spirit and people will not see Him when He returns.

Every eye did Jesus return, unfortunately most live in darkness and couldnt decipher the events. So they missed it.

 

[kjw47]

Who is coming to judge the earth? The OT says YHWH.
And yes Jesus is God standing there.

The bible is clear God appointed Jesus as Judge, But Jesus judges according to his Fathers will only. In that sense it is YHWH doing the judging. Jesus does 0 of his own inititive-John 5:30) ItsALWAYS YHWh,s will that he does. So do the real followers-Matt 7:21--They disowned themselves to follow Jesus.

 

[kjw47]

You are full of JW doctrine but deny the Bible.

My post was truth out of the bible. So it must be you who do not know it.

 

[Rival]

Do you think hiding the name of God is an honorable thing to do?

I think it was right to do in order to stop folks desecrating the name by either misusing it or mispronouncing it.

 

[Sheldon]

exactly just the opposite of what is said. Have a good day. I will pray on your behalf.

Nonsense. You made a bare unevidenced claim that "my heart was being misled, and this was my response.

That's a claim not objective evidence, what does it even mean? My heart is a pump made of muscle, can you ever talk plainly? If you are claiming i am being deceived then say so, but I'm going to need a lot more than just the claim, before i take it remotely seriously.

You ignore what I'd said and moved onto to another unevidenced claim, as you keep doing. Here it is:

If God hit you over the head and told you, you would say the opposite.

I responded as follows:

That's another claim, still not even the pretence of any objective evidence for your original claim though.

Your post had no relevance to mine, and none to your previous unevidenced spiel, so it is absurd to claim that pointing this out was somehow "exactly just the opposite of what is said."

You can pray for me if that makes you happy, but it has no relevance to you ignoring posts, and those who ask you to demonstrate something approaching objective evidence for your endless preaching.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Is the Mosaic Covenant supposed to last forever?
Where is that said?

Genesis 17:7
And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Those with holy spirit corrected the errors. The ones who live by the errors condemned it.

You don't get it. It's not a matter of errors and correcting errors. It is a matter that something that is said in one language can't always be said in a second language. Do you have no experience in translating from one language to a second?

 

[Sheldon]

You don't get it. It's not a matter of errors and correcting errors. It is a matter that something that is said in one language can't always be said in a second language. Do you have no experience in translating from one language to a second?

You don't find it a little incongruous that a deity with limitless knowledge to conceive and create a message, and limitless power to communicate it, should be confined the errancies of a single human language? Or that this fact appears in most cases to reduce religious belief to little more than the happenstance of geography?

 

[Dogknox20]

Jesus himself teaches-John 17:3--The one who sent him= the Father( John 5:30) is THE ONLY TRUE GOD.. i will believe Jesus you make your choice who you believe.

No the religion that came out Rome twisted John 1:1-- to fit false council teachings. Even in their own encyclopedia it states-- The assimilation of a trinity god was not established into a christians life until near the end of the 4th century. the new catholic encyclopedia- 1967-Vol XIV- PG 299

A false council creation misleading billions-satan beat them centuries ago. Because they will not believe fact over error.

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kjw47 Christians have always believed Jesus is God! Thomas the Apostle (Christian) tells you: Jesus is his God!
Christians believe the words of God!
2 Samuel 7:12 When your days are over and you rest with your ancestors, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, your own flesh and blood, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. When he does wrong, I will punish him with a rod wielded by men, with floggings inflicted by human hands.

Jesus built his Church ON ROCK (not on sand) it will never ever fail!
Jesus is ALWAYS with his Church; he is ALWAYS with CHRISTIANS.. To the end of Time!
You are forced by the Watch Tower to reject Jesus and his Holy Body! The Body of Jesus is established ON ROCK, Jesus loves his BODY he died for his BODY his CHURCH!
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her
26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,
27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.

Matthew 28:20 Teach them to do everything I have commanded you. “And remember that I am always with you until the end of time.”

Charles Taze Russell started the JW church LONG AFTER Jesus established his Church on ROCK! Jesus is ALWAYS with his Church to the end of time this means.. Jesus is NOT with the Watch Tower they came along 1900 years AFTER Jesus established his Church on ROCK!

kjw47 Jesus tells you "Anti-Christs" will come.. Anti-Christ is "Anti-Christian!" The JW rejects what Christians have always believed "Jesus is God"! The JW teach Many god... Christians have always believed in ONE God! The JW came AFTER Jesus established his Church ON ROCK (not sand)! The Christian cannot be "Anti-Christ" but the Watch Tower can and is they came 1900 years afater Jesus warned Christians! Christians use the CROSS" as their symbol.. You see a cross you know instantly it is Christian! Satan was defeated by the Cross it was on the cross Jesus destroyed death and restored life! Satan would NEVER EVER put a cross on any of his churches he would NEVER EVER teach the CROSS saved!

The Watch Tower ADDED to the scriptures.. NOT ONE...

kjw47 not one interpretation of John 1 (over 60) has it written as the JWs have! The JWs changed John one to read "Many gods"!
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was "a god". Satan rejects Jesus is God also; he would like nothing else then to have taught in his churches Jesus is NOT thee God but one of many!

 

[kjw47]

Nonsense. You made a bare unevidenced claim that "my heart was being misled, and this was my response.



You ignore what I'd said and moved onto to another unevidenced claim, as you keep doing. Here it is:



I responded as follows:



Your post had no relevance to mine, and none to your previous unevidenced spiel, so it is absurd to claim that pointing this out was somehow "exactly just the opposite of what is said."

You can pray for me if that makes you happy, but it has no relevance to you ignoring posts, and those who ask you to demonstrate something approaching objective evidence for your endless preaching.

Did you read Revelation 13 like i asked you?

 

[kjw47]

You don't get it. It's not a matter of errors and correcting errors. It is a matter that something that is said in one language can't always be said in a second language. Do you have no experience in translating from one language to a second?

It takes holy spirit. There is no better guide.

 

[kjw47]

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kjw47 Christians have always believed Jesus is God! Thomas the Apostle (Christian) tells you: Jesus is his God!
Christians believe the words of God!
2 Samuel 7:12 When your days are over and you rest with your ancestors, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, your own flesh and blood, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. When he does wrong, I will punish him with a rod wielded by men, with floggings inflicted by human hands.

Jesus built his Church ON ROCK (not on sand) it will never ever fail!
Jesus is ALWAYS with his Church; he is ALWAYS with CHRISTIANS.. To the end of Time!
You are forced by the Watch Tower to reject Jesus and his Holy Body! The Body of Jesus is established ON ROCK, Jesus loves his BODY he died for his BODY his CHURCH!
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her
26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,
27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.

Matthew 28:20 Teach them to do everything I have commanded you. “And remember that I am always with you until the end of time.”

Charles Taze Russell started the JW church LONG AFTER Jesus established his Church on ROCK! Jesus is ALWAYS with his Church to the end of time this means.. Jesus is NOT with the Watch Tower they came along 1900 years AFTER Jesus established his Church on ROCK!

kjw47 Jesus tells you "Anti-Christs" will come.. Anti-Christ is "Anti-Christian!" The JW rejects what Christians have always believed "Jesus is God"! The JW teach Many god... Christians have always believed in ONE God! The JW came AFTER Jesus established his Church ON ROCK (not sand)! The Christian cannot be "Anti-Christ" but the Watch Tower can and is they came 1900 years afater Jesus warned Christians! Christians use the CROSS" as their symbol.. You see a cross you know instantly it is Christian! Satan was defeated by the Cross it was on the cross Jesus destroyed death and restored life! Satan would NEVER EVER put a cross on any of his churches he would NEVER EVER teach the CROSS saved!

The Watch Tower ADDED to the scriptures.. NOT ONE...

kjw47 not one interpretation of John 1 (over 60) has it written as the JWs have! The JWs changed John one to read "Many gods"!
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was "a god". Satan rejects Jesus is God also; he would like nothing else then to have taught in his churches Jesus is NOT thee God but one of many!

There were many translation that did not call Jesus God in the last line at John 1:1--all of them condemned by the ones using the error filled translations.

Satan knows100% God cannot be tempted, He tempted Jesus in the wilderness. Jesus could have failed, satan knew it that is why he tried while Jesus was at his weakest point. 40 days fasting.

 

[danieldemol]

on what are your opinions based?

The short answer is science.

For a slightly longer answer the Sumerians of the Uruk period lived through the time of Noah's flood: Sumerians
And here are twenty one reasons Noah's worldwide flood never happened from a retired geologist;
http://www.csun.edu/~vcgeo005/Nr38Reasons.pdf

Other reasons are just derived from simple common sense, it is inconcievable that Hinduism would date back to 500[12]-200[22] BCE with roots in non-monotheistic religions dating back even much older and have survived for thousands of years if God were to periodically go around destroying people for taking gods beside YHWH.

In my opinion.

 

[metis]

This proves The Father and the son want that name known and used.

There are roughly 15 names for God as found in the oldest Hebrew versions of the Tanakh, so you're really barking up the wrong tree.

 

[kjw47]

There are roughly 15 names for God as found in the oldest Hebrew versions of the Tanakh, so you're really barking up the wrong tree.

Actually God made it clear to Moses YHWH-nearly 6800 x in the OT. Men removed it they had no right. Every spot GOD or LORD all capitols is.

 

[Sheldon]

Did you read Revelation 13 like i asked you?

Have you read Harry Potter? Is it evidence for wizardry?

Try this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Human-Bondage-Vintage-Classics/dp/0099284960

Or are your beliefs so closed minded, that they don't allow books except the bible?

 

[Sheldon]

It takes holy spirit. There is no better guide.

What objective evidence can you demonstrate for this claim?

 

[kjw47]

Have you read Harry Potter? Is it evidence for wizardry?

Try this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Human-Bondage-Vintage-Classics/dp/0099284960

Or are your beliefs so closed minded, that they don't allow books except the bible?

Satan is behind the occult. As well as immoral sex, violence--Hollywood are his puppets.

 

[Bird123]

Here are some facts few probably know. They are hidden from most that claim to be those that serve Jesus.

In the OT, Gods personal name was removed( making them altered versions) In nearly 6800 spots. Every spot where- GOD or LORD all capitols. Wicked removed it, they had no right. God inspired his name there.
As well They have found very old fragments of the Greek septuagent(NT) The ones who read them stated--We have proof Gods personal name is in the NT and used by the early christians.
That goes along with Jesus who at John 17:6- teaches that name to his followers, At John 17:26- Promises to keep on making that name known. Along with another prayer to his Father from Jesus at John 12:28--Father, glorify your name. Therefore a voice came out of heaven i both glorified it and will glorify it again.

This proves The Father and the son want that name known and used.
Yet the religions that keep that name out, condemned the ones who put it back-They said the name doesnt belong in the Nt even though there is proof. Proving they are doing the opposite of the Fathers will and what Jesus wants. Jesus lives to do the Fathers will as does every true follower-Matthew 7:21-Jesus is clear-Those living now to do his Fathers will, get to enter his kingdom( be saved)-- so by those religions doing the opposite of the Fathers will have closed up Gods kingdom to all that listen to them=2Corinthians 11:12-15--Run from them.

William Shakespeare has your answer. I quote: " A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"

Do you really think names are important? You greatly underestimate God. In reality, names are never used. Why not? Everyone already knows who everyone is.

Who you are has never been any name. Mankind uses names for a point of reference. God is about what is and not labels, names, or references.

This might sound strange, however it works so much better than language that can often have several different meanings depending on the observer.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!

 

[Brian2]

Every eye did Jesus return, unfortunately most live in darkness and couldnt decipher the events. So they missed it.

Oh, so that is why not every eye saw Him.
Jesus said the Jews would see Him and they would know He came in the name of the YHWH.