Brian2
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Oh so you are talking about the Abrahamic Covenant and not the Mosaic Covenant.
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Oh so you are talking about the Abrahamic Covenant and not the Mosaic Covenant.
Brian2
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So you are saying that the OT is wrong and that YHWH is not coming to judge the earth.
Brian2
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kjw47 said >>>>Jesus is Gods master worker of Proverbs 8, only the one whom God is creating all other things through deserves that title, The being who came speaks at Prov 8, it is not God speaking.
After Jesus was raised, he walked through a locked door, no flesh does that. They didnt even recognize him when first seeing him. He wasnt in his first body at that point. He is Gods son and can either be flesh at anytime he wants or spirit.
In the OT angels came down as mortal having sex with women and making babies called Nephlim. One of the reasons God flooded the earth to get rid of those giant violent Nephlim.<<<<
Is Proverbs 8 Jesus speaking? It is wisdom personified speaking, the female personification who lives with prudence.
Does Prov 8:22 say:
New International Version
“The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old;
New Living Translation
“The LORD formed me from the beginning, before he created anything else.
English Standard Version
“The LORD possessed me at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of old.
Berean Study Bible
The LORD created me as His first course, before His works of old.
King James Bible
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Is it true that the Lord spread out the earth by Himself and alone stretched out the heavens? (Isa 44:24)
Is it true that Jesus laid the foundations of the earth and that the heavens are the work of His hands? (Heb 1:10)
Matthew 28:5 But the angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. 6 He is not here; He has risen, just as He said! Come, see the place where He lay.
Why did the angel use the missing body as evidence that Jesus was raised from the dead if Jesus was raised as a spirit?
If the body Jesus was raised in is the immortal and incorruptible body of the resurrection then maybe it can disappear and go through walls also.
Jesus said, while He was alive that He was going to resurrect in His physical body (see John 2:19-21) and that is what happened, why do you not believe it?
Luke 24:39 Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”
Who has deceived you that you believe a lie instead of the Word of God?
Bree
Active Member
isnt that just semantics? Mispronouncing a name is not sacrilige. My mother in law could never pronounce my name and it was not offensive to me. Do you really believe that God would be hung up on people mispronouncing his name?
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
It's the same covenant. Moses simply expanded on it.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
There are things the holy spirit cannot do -- one of them is provide a translation that doesn't lose something in the process.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Again, there's no evidence whatsoever that men removed it because these names show up in the oldest Hebrew copies. How could you possibly know they supposedly did as such?
And as a Christian, Jesus' mandate was for us to "love one another as I have loved you", thus not political correctness on which name to use.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
There were no capitals in ancient Hebrew.
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
With there being no vowels in their language, it's just whatever they put in. That's why Yahweh and Jehovah are some of his names. They swapped out different vowels. I think J and Y are interchangeable as well. Oy vey.
kjw47
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God can do anything. You do not know him very well if you put limits on him. Has not his creation shown you how powerful he is. He surely can direct mortals through holy spirit.
John 17:6, 26--Jesus disagrees. God wrote the bible through men. He put his name there because he wants it there.
kjw47
Well-Known Member
Men put those there in place of the tetragramoton. Every scholar on earth knows it is truth. They had no right. Satans will wanted it. His will keeps it out.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Then you don't believe in what Jesus said then as there's not one single verse that says one must only use God's Most Holy Name but whereas he did say we must love one another. Your choice, but I would recommend that you not blindly just accept what your Governing Body has taught you.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
I already told you I don't believe in fictional demons, and that doesn't answer my question, are the Harry Potter books evidence for wizardry?
Try this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Human-Bondage-Vintage-Classics/dp/0099284960
That's a marvellous book, I thoroughly recommend it, the author has an astounding insight into the human condition. Or are your beliefs so closed minded, that they don't allow books except the bible? Only you didn't answer that question either?
Sheldon
Veteran Member
I don't believe he is no, and the OT is filled with errant nonsense, that is axiomatic, and why so many theists have had to reduce it to vague allegory.
kjw47
Well-Known Member
Jesus promised to keep making it known-John 17:26--He does just that through his real teachers and followers. He as well taught his followers that name so they could use it-John 17:6-- just not in vain. That name was so important to Jesus he began the lords prayer about it--Hallowed be thy name.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Can he make a cell he can't escape from? Or make a rock he can't lift, or create a square circle?
Omnipotence paradox
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Sheldon
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Deepity...