GOP nightmare is here: Sanders Is Budget Chair

[Revoltingest]

I had free tuition in graduate school. It was covered by first a research fellowship and then by being a teaching assistant.

I don't have an issue with extending that to more people.

Not everyone can or wants to be a TA/TF.
Not everyone gets research money.

 

[sun rise]

Not everyone can or wants to be a TA/TF.
Not everyone gets research money.

You missed my point perhaps because I did not spell it out in 100% clarity. The point is that not paying for college does not mean not having some work. In other words, if you want to avoid tuition, here's a list of jobs you can do instead. And to avoid ambiguity, of course scholarships are OK by me as another route to avoid paying for college.

 

[Revoltingest]

You missed my point perhaps because I did not spell it out in 100% clarity. The point is that not paying for college does not mean not having some work. In other words, if you want to avoid tuition, here's a list of jobs you can do instead. And to avoid ambiguity, of course scholarships are OK by me as another route to avoid paying for college.

I worked all thru school...machinist, eg, gym security, dog census
taker, landscaper. It was paid work here & there. No free tuition.
Earning money is a good way to go.

 

[icehorse]

You are free to disagree, but it's the height of hubris to
presume that if I we have different opinions, it's due to
my mistake or bad faith.

When a debater makes a mistake it's no biggie. Until they double down. This is not hubris, it's simply responding to posts YOU made.

I advise less sanctimony &
certainty.

Pot and kettle.

Be open minded, civil, & conversational.

You usually are, in my experience. In this case, not so much.

Stop thinking you've been smited.

I don't think that. Get your own house in order, before advising others.

To call out a fallacy argument is simply a part of debate. I'm not attacking you, I'm attacking an argument. Get off your sanctimonious soapbox.

 

[Revoltingest]

When a debater makes a mistake it's no biggie.....

This is repetitive.
I've nothing to add.

 

[Thief]

The media source is obviously from the left. As far as I'm concerned, I expect the next two years, at least, to be a lot more entertaining than the past 4.

GOP nightmare about to come true: Senate Budget Committee Chair Bernie Sanders

The long-held Republican nightmare that a champion of working-class people and the common good — someone who has dedicated his political career to curbing poverty and injustice while denouncing corporate greed, endless war and the cruelty of a for-profit health system that leaves millions upon millions uninsured or without affordable access to care — would assume the powerful position of chairing the Senate Budget Committee is about to become a reality.


"Time to face the harsh reality, socialist Bernie Sanders will become the chairman of the Senate Budget Committee. He has vowed to use his position to enact his progressive agenda on healthcare, climate, infrastructure spending, and cutting defense spending," Nikki Haley tweeted Saturday.

just saw a pic of bernie ......in a chair.....all by himself

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

The media source is obviously from the left. As far as I'm concerned, I expect the next two years, at least, to be a lot more entertaining than the past 4.

GOP nightmare about to come true: Senate Budget Committee Chair Bernie Sanders

The long-held Republican nightmare that a champion of working-class people and the common good — someone who has dedicated his political career to curbing poverty and injustice while denouncing corporate greed, endless war and the cruelty of a for-profit health system that leaves millions upon millions uninsured or without affordable access to care — would assume the powerful position of chairing the Senate Budget Committee is about to become a reality.


"Time to face the harsh reality, socialist Bernie Sanders will become the chairman of the Senate Budget Committee. He has vowed to use his position to enact his progressive agenda on healthcare, climate, infrastructure spending, and cutting defense spending," Nikki Haley tweeted Saturday.

How is this a "nightmare"? Sanders, during both the 2016 and 2020 Dem primaries, acted like an outsider, a renegade, but he quickly gave in when it was declared he lost both elections. Each time, he quickly acquiescenced to the DNC's agenda. He's just another fake, otherwise he never would've gotten a seat at the table. He'll probably be dead soon, anyway.

 

[Sunstone]

It's nice of Nikki to highlight the positives.

She brings with her a track record of nothing but positive accomplishments. Or so she tells us.

 

[Sunstone]

"socialism" has been a swear word for the right for a long long time. Everything that the left proposes is automatically labeled socialism.

That gives me an idea. Let's all agree to write to our Democratic Senators, including Sanders, and propose that the lot of them start 'casually' referring to the Capitol Building toilets as glowing examples that socialism actually works and is a very good thing.

You know, "If we can share toilets, Comrade Schumer, why is it our reactionary friends are unable to see that we can just as equitably share the GDP?"

It should be fascinating. and perhaps not in the least a little bit instructive, to see just how long it takes the Republicans to start using the carpets in their offices.

It is actually quite interesting that America has come to having an entire major political party dedicated to little besides sticking it to the other major party. Throw in two or at most three other things, and you have the Republican platform today.

It's so much like those thundering but small minded preachers who make their living railing non-stop against atheists. Everything they say circles back to atheists. That's the Republicans today, minus the religious trappings.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Um, so, point thereof?

What I said was the point. I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.

 

[Audie]

That gives me an idea. Let's all agree to write to our Democratic Senators, including Sanders, and propose that the lot of them start 'casually' referring to the Capitol Building toilets as glowing examples that socialism actually works and is a very good thing.

You know, "If we can share toilets, Comrade Schumer, why is it our reactionary friends are unable to see that we can just as equitably share the GDP?"

It should be fascinating. and perhaps not in the least a little bit instructive, to see just how long it takes the Republicans to start using the carpets in their offices.

It is actually quite interesting that America has come to having an entire major political party dedicated to little besides sticking it to the other major party. Throw in two or at most three other things, and you have the Republican platform today.

It's so much like those thundering but small minded preachers who make their living railing non-stop against atheists. Everything they say circles back to atheists. That's the Republicans today, minus the religious trappings.

Speaking as an absent non combatant the
vilifying looks pretty nearly 50 50 in your
nominally united states.

Excepting say in NYC where its universal nonstop
that " conservative " or "republican"
Is a swear word.

 

[icehorse]

Speaking as an absent non combatant the
vilifying looks pretty nearly 50 50 in your
nominally united states.

From your perspective, do the platforms of the two parties seem ethically on par with each other?

 

[Audie]

What I said was the point. I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.

Whatevs

 

[Audie]

From your perspective, do the platforms of the two parties seem ethically on par with each other?

My topic was vilifying, so dunno why you segway to ethics.

What is an ethical platform

 

[Revoltingest]

My topic was vilifying, so dunno why you segway to ethics.

Perhaps the cry of "False equivalency!" looms.
It's an absolute fact that Pubs are far far less
ethical than Dems, so no comparison is allowed.
(A planks-in-both-eyes problem.)

 

[icehorse]

My topic was vilifying, so dunno why you segway to ethics.

What is an ethical platform

Fair enough. Let me ask you this, do you think vilifying is ever ethical? For example, are we being ethical and moral when we vilify Hitler?

If so, then if one party's platform is extremely unethical, and the other's is only somewhat unethical, would you say that vilification is more appropriate in one direction than in the other?

 

[Audie]

Fair enough. Let me ask you this, do you think vilifying is ever ethical? For example, are we being ethical and moral when we vilify Hitler?

If so, then if one party's platform is extremely unethical, and the other's is only somewhat unethical, would you say that vilification is more appropriate in one direction than in the other?

Vilifting is seldom a good idea.

What is an unethical platform?

 

[tytlyf]

the corporate nightmare is here? rejoice!

 

[icehorse]

Vilifting is seldom a good idea.

What is an unethical platform?

Well a political platform is the collection of policies that a party wants to install. So for example, I would say that taking away affordable healthcare for millions of people, without providing a replacement, would be an unethical piece of a party's platform. So we can review all of the parties' platform elements and get an overall sense of relative ethical-ness, no?

 

[Audie]

Well a political platform is the collection of policies that a party wants to install. So for example, I would say that taking away affordable healthcare for millions of people, without providing a replacement, would be an unethical piece of a party's platform. So we can review all of the parties' platform elements and get an overall sense of relative ethical-ness, no?

Promising affordable health care but lying
about how it will work, that requires unconstitutional
element, that doesn't work remotely as promised
and fails 100% to address the core problems
that make American healthcare so insanely
expensive...ethical?

But never mind all that.

Platforms are broad policy goals, both
sides proposed to improve things in
evident good faith.

What is or is not a good direction is not
so much-if at all- ethics but how well
thought out and executed.

And opinion.

You wanna know something I see as unethical?

Presidents or congress people even accepting their
huge salaries when they don't need it.
Special deals, don't have to follow rules for the
huddled masses.

Reckless spending on things big and small,
totally ignoring their fiduciary duty to
TAXPAYERS for whom taxes are a real
hardship.

I dont think there's enough ethics in
congress to fill a teaspoon.