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Gun Laws
- Thread starter Jimmy
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I think some useful regulations would decrease crime
slightly overall, but more so regarding the most news
intensive kind, ie, mass shootings. This is because
red flag laws would disproportionately apply to the
mass shooters.
slightly overall, but more so regarding the most news
intensive kind, ie, mass shootings. This is because
red flag laws would disproportionately apply to the
mass shooters.
Kind of depends on what kind of reform we're talking about. Requiring all children over four to carry a handgun and everyone over ten a full auto submachine gun would be gun reform, wouldn't it?
What sort of gun reform did you have in mind?
You want to know if it would reduce crime? Why speculate? Look at the countries that tried it. How did it work for them?
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
I’m not sure I’m understanding disproportionately applying.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
Oh I think I know what you mean, maybe. Lol. Do you think red flag laws would decrease all the mass shootings though?
Just decrease the number of mass shootings.
Red flags won't catch all the dangerously
disturbed potential shooters.
All gun regulation is tricky.
But it's worth doing that which is is legal & offers net benefits.
I think it would. The US is a unique case, though, because we already have hundreds of millions of guns out in public hands. We can’t outright ban firearms for that reason, and on top of that it would go against the second amendment. The icing on the cake is, trying to ban firearms would result in a very brutal Civil War 2.
I think certain firearms should be banned though. Assault rifles in particular. Hunting rifles, fine. Shotguns and handguns, fine. Why do we need assault rifles?
And absolutely emphasize the red flag laws. Increase the standards, make the background checks deeper, etc
I think certain firearms should be banned though. Assault rifles in particular. Hunting rifles, fine. Shotguns and handguns, fine. Why do we need assault rifles?
And absolutely emphasize the red flag laws. Increase the standards, make the background checks deeper, etc
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
Hunting rifles would be fine. Why do we need handguns or shotguns?
Home defense. Since there are already millions of guns out in the streets, it'd be foolish to believe criminals would stop using them. Handguns and shotguns wouldn't do much good in a mass shooting anyways.
Heyo
Veteran Member
I don't think overall crime would go down significantly. As @Revoltingest already said, it may reduce "mass shootings" but you don't need a gun to shoplift, lay a fire or commit fraud.
What would go down are "accidents", suicides and crimes ending in the death of people.
And as @Valjean pointed out, that could be seen in countries which did introduce restrictive gun laws. Especially Australia comes to mind.
But for that to work, it would have to be a federal law. Some states and DC already have stricter regulations. It didn't help much as it is too easy to evade them.
Have you ever tried to shoot down a flying duck with a rifle? Do you know how far bullets travel, as compared to shot?
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Gun related violence definitely would.
There would be less gun deaths and less mass shootings.
PureX
Veteran Member
We need to regulate the ownership and use of firearms with the goal of keeping them out of the hands of the people most likely to abuse them. We can't identify all of those people, but we we can identify most of them. They are the drunks, drug addicts, domestic abusers, stalkers, rangers, teenagers, and the otherwise emotionally infantile.
We don't need to ban guns. We need to ban access to them by the people that we know shouldn't have them. And those people usually leave a whole trail of behaviors in their wake that will tell us who they are. We just need to gather that information, and put it to use.
But we also need to raise the responsibility level of all gun owners, too. So they will stop contributing to the problem, and start helping to mitigate it.
We don't need to ban guns. We need to ban access to them by the people that we know shouldn't have them. And those people usually leave a whole trail of behaviors in their wake that will tell us who they are. We just need to gather that information, and put it to use.
But we also need to raise the responsibility level of all gun owners, too. So they will stop contributing to the problem, and start helping to mitigate it.
I don't know about all crime, but gun reform would certainly cut down on the increase of mass shootings with better
gun regulations. I don't know the statistics but these mass shootings seem to occur in states with no red flag laws.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Based on previous examples in history, probably yes, but it would take some time.