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Harris Called Out For Being A Communist

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Well people had better get to work and try to make fossil power inferior.
It already is, natural gas is already more expensive than wind and solar though it will provide a temporary solution to short term demand until cheaper storage methods come on line so expect it to be around for a while, but coal fired plants will be around only as long as they don't require much maintenance like a 15 year old car. Unless someone actually develops an inexpensive pebble bed reactor nuclear is history and fusion is still many years off, though eventually we will probably get there.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
All Trump has said is more oil drilling, which won’t be helpful for many years. Nothing about green energy.

So all of a sudden the party that has vilified green energy is its biggest supporter? I call bull**** on that. I’m not convinced. We can’t trust MAGA.
I never said he was the biggest supporter of green energy, why did you say that? I said the platform says use all energy, meaning use all energy as appropriate to lower energy cost. That is what it says.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I never said he was the biggest supporter of green energy, why did you say that?
MAGA has opposed green energy for nearly a decade, and you are claiming they are all in for it. Nonsense. Conservatives are the party of fossil fuels and pollution. That's why Trump keps saying he will drill more. Fossil fuels aren't green, and you haven't linked a single source where Trump says he will go green.
I said the platform says use all energy, meaning use all energy as appropriate to lower energy cost. That is what it says.
We already are using all sorts of energy. The democrats are just better at advocating for renewable and non-polluting sources. We don't need republica ns for green energy, demoscarts are already doing it. Besides, how can citizens trust anything republicans say? Your candidate is a criminal. A liar. A cheater. A racist. No wonder Trump is sinking in the polls, and he's doing himself more damage by the stupid things he says.

Ask Trump. He at least answers questions.
Seldom actually answering the question, and when he does it's lies. The poor guy even has to lie about crowd size he's so insecure. The guy only hurts himself when he opens his mouth.

You MAGAs need to label Harris a communist because you can't argue for your platform. But it's not working.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Well people had better get to work and try to make fossil power inferior.
What, not enough pollution for you? Is climate change not severe enough for you yet? Do you want hotter temps and more severe weather? How long before your insurance rates go up to cover losses of natural disasters before you complain about it? Twice what it is now? Three times?
 

Spice

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If he wanted to reduce energy costs, he would be pushing wind and solar which are cheaper than fossil fuels at this point.
Plus, we already know what a "fosil fuel crisis" produces. I know I don't want to repeat that part of 1974. I worked the customer service desk of the electric company. It was a stress-filled, scary job.
 

Stevicus

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Clizby Wampuscat

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MAGA has opposed green energy for nearly a decade, and you are claiming they are all in for it. Nonsense. Conservatives are the party of fossil fuels and pollution. That's why Trump keps saying he will drill more. Fossil fuels aren't green, and you haven't linked a single source where Trump says he will go green.
I NEVER EVER claimed that MAGA is all in for green energy. Stop lying about what I said. I said in Trump's platform it says he will use ALL for ms of energy, ALL means green as well.
We already are using all sorts of energy. The democrats are just better at advocating for renewable and non-polluting sources. We don't need republica ns for green energy, demoscarts are already doing it. Besides, how can citizens trust anything republicans say? Your candidate is a criminal. A liar. A cheater. A racist. No wonder Trump is sinking in the polls, and he's doing himself more damage by the stupid things he says.
Texas has more renewables than any other state by far. What you don't get is republicans want both. The dems are the loons that want to eliminate fossil fuels when it cannot be done. Do the math. Stop lying about things.
Seldom actually answering the question, and when he does it's lies. The poor guy even has to lie about crowd size he's so insecure. The guy only hurts himself when he opens his mouth.

You MAGAs need to label Harris a communist because you can't argue for your platform. But it's not working.
I actually will worry for you when Trump wins the election.

Harris advocates for price controls on food for god sakes, for taxing unrealized capital gains, taking patents from companies, sides with Hamas, nationalize health care, abortion up to birth, did not receive one vote from anyone ever to be the nominee, wants to tell you what kind of car and lightbulb you can have, has a VP that doesn't think parents have a say in what gender their kids are, is ok with mutilating children for the sake of gender ideology. She is an authoritarian thug, communist or not. And oh yeah, won't answer questions about her ideas.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
It has already happened, Here again.

These are lifetime costs for new construction.
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Those are averages and like my post you ignored is not the right technology for all applications. And those green ones are not emission free as stated. Some have a higher carbon footprint than fossil fuels is you take into account scope 2 and 3 emissions. When you can make all renewables from all renewable energy and no fossil fuels let me know.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I NEVER EVER claimed that MAGA is all in for green energy. Stop lying about what I said. I said in Trump's platform it says he will use ALL for ms of energy, ALL means green as well.
Calm down. You wrote this in post 110. And you seem pretty enthusiastic for all sources. I guess you should have said "except green energy".

I never said he advocated for green energy. But he does say this in Agenda 47
Republicans will unleash Energy Production from all sources, including nuclear, to immediately slash Inflation and power American homes, cars, and factories with reliable, abundant, and affordable Energy.
Texas has more renewables than any other state by far. What you don't get is republicans want both. The dems are the loons that want to eliminate fossil fuels when it cannot be done. Do the math. Stop lying about things.
I didn't lie about anything. You are trying to play both sides with vague and misleading language. We know you. We know MAGAs, like yourself, have a bias against green energy.
I actually will worry for you when Trump wins the election.
Why, you know he is a criminal, a liar, corrupt, a racist. If anything happens to me and any other citizen you will be responsible. That you even say this suggests you know Trump is a threat to citizens. That you don't care illustrates how conservatives have devolved morally. When Trump dies and MAGA goes away it will be a chance for conservatives to find their soul and decency.

If MAGAs try to overturn the election that Trump loses will you be one of the new 2025 criminals that acts against the USA so that Trump can cheat and be installed as president? Is that the sort of person you are? From what we observe we can't trust MAGAs to be honorable and ethical, and that includes anyone who supports a criminal candidate. It's up to you to decide if you have integrity. You have to live with the consequences of your decisions.
Harris advocates for price controls on food for god sakes, for taxing unrealized capital gains, taking patents from companies, sides with Hamas, nationalize health care, abortion up to birth, did not receive one vote from anyone ever to be the nominee, wants to tell you what kind of car and lightbulb you can have, has a VP that doesn't think parents have a say in what gender their kids are, is ok with mutilating children for the sake of gender ideology. She is an authoritarian thug, communist or not. And oh yeah, won't answer questions about her ideas.
I don't trust anything you have to say. i will read what Harris stands for from reputable sources, and trustworthy RF members. Don't even bother to sell your right wing propaganda to the well informed. You've ruined your reputation. Live with it.
 
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Argentbear

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Ask Trump. He at least answers questions.
You are the one who presented it as something so monumentally great. Why don't you know?

and no Trump doesn't answer questions about this or much else and his manifesto 47 doesn't give any more information than this meaningless sentence.
 
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Argentbear

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I NEVER EVER claimed that MAGA is all in for green energy. Stop lying about what I said. I said in Trump's platform it says he will use ALL for ms of energy, ALL means green as well.

Texas has more renewables than any other state by far. What you don't get is republicans want both. The dems are the loons that want to eliminate fossil fuels when it cannot be done. Do the math. Stop lying about things.
False. Vermont has the highest percentage of renewable energy. Texas comes in at #20
I actually will worry for you when Trump wins the election.

Harris advocates for price controls on food for god sakes, for taxing unrealized capital gains, taking patents from companies, sides with Hamas, nationalize health care, abortion up to birth, did not receive one vote from anyone ever to be the nominee, wants to tell you what kind of car and lightbulb you can have, has a VP that doesn't think parents have a say in what gender their kids are, is ok with mutilating children for the sake of gender ideology. She is an authoritarian thug, communist or not. And oh yeah, won't answer questions about her ideas.
You forgot mention how she is personally responsible for letting all those brown skinned murders and rapists cross the border.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Those are averages and like my post you ignored is not the right technology for all applications. And those green ones are not emission free as stated. Some have a higher carbon footprint than fossil fuels is you take into account scope 2 and 3 emissions. When you can make all renewables from all renewable energy and no fossil fuels let me know.
Oh be serious.

The carbon footprint of a wind turbine is calculated by considering the energy and raw materials used at each stage of its life cycle, from production to decommissioning. The results can vary depending on the turbine's size, country, and whether it's onshore or offshore. However, wind turbines generally have a carbon footprint of 5–26 grams of carbon dioxide-equivalent per kilowatt-hour (kWh) of electricity generated. This is significantly lower than the carbon footprint of coal and natural gas, which produce around 980 g CO2/kWh and 465 g CO2/kWh, respectively.


Wind turbines can also be considered carbon neutral because they typically repay their carbon footprint in less than six months. For the rest of their 20–30 year lifespan, they produce electricity without emitting any more carbon dioxide, except for emissions from maintenance and service vessels, which account for about 10% of total emissions.









 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Now if you can only apply that to a battery......
Read the page again, there is onshore wind with storage and PV with storage based on current Lithium battery storage which is an expensive long term solution, but even at that already competitive and much better batteries are already in development for this purpose.

This is the solution that will lower energy costs and we can build them here if we commit rather than building 50 year old polluting technology.
I know you want your fathers 62 Buick back, but the rest of us are much happier and safer in a Rav 4.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
He is not it the conceptual idea of communism as Marx suggested but the current political use of the word as nothing to do with the original meaning of the word. Most communist countries do not share everything equally nor have equality of status of common ownership or control. The term is to represent a pattern of supreme control of a government over the people when used in a negative way.
His regime is considered authoritarian capitalist.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Read the page again, there is onshore wind with storage and PV with storage based on current Lithium battery storage which is an expensive long term solution, but even at that already competitive and much better batteries are already in development for this purpose.

This is the solution that will lower energy costs and we can build them here if we commit rather than building 50 year old polluting technology.
I know you want your fathers 62 Buick back, but the rest of us are much happier and safer in a Rav 4.
So it's still not yet ready for prime time.
 
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