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Harris totally demolishes Trump's claims about here rally sizes.

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
As you know, the fragile ego of Trump is tied largely to how many people show up to his rallies. This election is different from the past. Crowd sizes are not only smaller for hm, people have also been leaving early. Whenever Harris has outstripped him in number of attendees he has had to lie or try to distort the numbers. Tonight she had a rally that was even larger than his January 6'th speech that led to an attempted insurrection.

Harris had an estimated crowd size of over 75,000 people at the Ellipse in DC. The venue was full and the overflow crowd had to go to a secondary site:

Kamala Harris' crowd size crushes previous record with Ellipse speech

"More than 75,000 spectators gathered in Washington, D.C., to hear Vice President Kamala Harris' closing argument speech at the same site of former President Donald Trump's infamous "Save America" rally that preceded the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol."

"As the vice president took the stage Tuesday night, her campaign's rapid response director, Ammar Moussa, posted to his account on X, formerly Twitter, that there were "OVER 75,000 people on the National Mall to watch Kamala Harris deliver her closing remarks."

"Here. We. Go," Moussa added.

CNN later reported that the Ellipse was at capacity and some guests were directed to an overflow area on the National Mall, per a Harris campaign official."

Not much else to say. Though now we will likely hear that crowd size does not matter.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Harris is on the rise and Trump is on the decline. I think even Trump is aware that he isn't capable of competing for the job of president.

Harris offers a real set of solutions for citizens. She knows what she's doing.

Trump is like a captain of an aircraft carrier that has taken a few torpedo hits, but has a crew that is keeping the ship afloat. But Trump orders the launch of planes that take off and loop around and fire more torpedos into the ship. What the hell is he doing? He doesn't know, someone on his staff thought it was a good idea.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
Harris is on the rise and Trump is on the decline. I think even Trump is aware that he isn't capable of competing for the job of president.

Harris offers a real set of solutions for citizens. She knows what she's doing.

Trump is like a captain of an aircraft carrier that has taken a few torpedo hits, but has a crew that is keeping the ship afloat. But Trump orders the launch of planes that take off and loop around and fire more torpedos into the ship. What the hell is he doing? He doesn't know, someone on his staff thought it was a good idea.
I saw that rally. Once again, Harris did not demonstrate competence of issues, other than plagiarize Trump. It was moistly rhetoric and Fascist hate Trump mongering. She projects and blames Trump for all the short comings of the Biden Harris administration's four year disaster. If you were far left you got what you wanted but a the expense of the majority. Trump broke the border, Trump broke the economy, etc. The sad part is the Left is not swift enough to see her projections, which could explain their faux optimism.

There were a few places where the crowd stopped cheering the negativity, since, it was obvious she was lying.

Here I a good video of the two month metamorphosis and collage of the Harris campaign, from joyful warrior in the summer, to Hitler Harris down the stretch. It was from last night after the Harris Rally. She had a good summer bump with the joyful warrior approach. But the DNC decided to have her go postal and become angry, and this has led to a Trump surge and her running flat.

The undecided voters ant the negativity to end, and Hitler Harris is way too much. If you cannot rise above, try to dig a hole to place your opponent in, to the create an illusion of rising. This is shows desperation, with is noticed by the liberal media.


 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I saw that rally. Once again, Harris did not demonstrate competence of issues....
No candidate ever does during a campaign.
They're selling themselves using smoke & mirrors.
It offends me, but it's a necessary tactic to woo
the kind of voters who are still on the fence.
So it's not a standard by which to judge them.

To judge Harris, consider instead examining
her voting record in the Senate. (A VP record
isn't useful because it's a powerless role.)
 

Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
Harris is on the rise and Trump is on the decline. I think even Trump is aware that he isn't capable of competing for the job of president.

I am not sure about that. Harris is not pulling away from Trump in the polls. In fact, from all of the analysis I have been reading lately, it is essentially a toss up. Trump has the electoral advantage; Harris will get more of the popular vote. I hate to say it but I think Trump is going to win. God help us.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I am not sure about that. Harris is not pulling away from Trump in the polls.
There have been a lot of conservative polls that have been distorting the data. This is why the average of polls is a poor method.
In fact, from all of the analysis I have been reading lately, it is essentially a toss up.
Because the data is polling, and polling is notoriously unreliable.
Trump has the electoral advantage;
Yup, it's a bad system. It's the only way republicans have a chance to win since their ideas are so repelant to the majority, like abortion. Even Kansas voted in favor of abortion access.
Harris will get more of the popular vote. I hate to say it but I think Trump is going to win. God help us.
Are you claiming clarvoyance? Why don't you share some winning lottery numbers with us?

We really have no idea how the election will settle out. I can't believe citizens will elect a criminal with dementia for president. But, citizens have been manipulated successfully with a lot of divisive rhetoric, including the abortion issue. You've bought into it, and can't even defend your position it's so weak.
 

Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
There have been a lot of conservative polls that have been distorting the data. This is why the average of polls is a poor method.

Because the data is polling, and polling is notoriously unreliable.

Yup, it's a bad system. It's the only way republicans have a chance to win since their ideas are so repelant to the majority, like abortion. Even Kansas voted in favor of abortion access.

Are you claiming clarvoyance? Why don't you share some winning lottery numbers with us?

We really have no idea how the election will settle out. I can't believe citizens will elect a criminal with dementia for president. But, citizens have been manipulated successfully with a lot of divisive rhetoric, including the abortion issue. You've bought into it, and can't even defend your position it's so weak.

I think he has a very good chance of winning my state (PA), increasingly so. And while Harris can still get to 270 without PA, it will not be easy. Things may have changed a bit of late; there are nearly 500,000 people in this state of Puerto Rican background so hopefully the remarks at Trump's rally could tip the balance for Harris.

BTW, why such an ugly tone?
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I saw that rally. Once again, Harris did not demonstrate competence of issues, other than plagiarize Trump. It was moistly rhetoric and Fascist hate Trump mongering. She projects and blames Trump for all the short comings of the Biden Harris administration's four year disaster. If you were far left you got what you wanted but a the expense of the majority. Trump broke the border, Trump broke the economy, etc. The sad part is the Left is not swift enough to see her projections, which could explain their faux optimism.

There were a few places where the crowd stopped cheering the negativity, since, it was obvious she was lying.

Here I a good video of the two month metamorphosis and collage of the Harris campaign, from joyful warrior in the summer, to Hitler Harris down the stretch. It was from last night after the Harris Rally. She had a good summer bump with the joyful warrior approach. But the DNC decided to have her go postal and become angry, and this has led to a Trump surge and her running flat.

The undecided voters ant the negativity to end, and Hitler Harris is way too much. If you cannot rise above, try to dig a hole to place your opponent in, to the create an illusion of rising. This is shows desperation, with is noticed by the liberal media.
You are truly unbelievable. I'm just guessing you've got a mind-zapper that you flash at yourself after every Trump speech in which he is more negative than the number line to the left.

And I, too, listened to her address -- every word. And I have excellent comprehension, so I'm guessing somehow that you are dropping every other word -- perhaps on purpose -- so as not to understand what she's saying. There's simply no other explanation, if, as you say, you actually listened to her.

And you think her campaign is negative? Here's a list of insults by Trump directed at Harris on last Friday in Traverse City, Michigan -- in just 3 minutes:
  • Kamla Harris that you've been a horrible, horrible Vice President.
  • You've destroyed San Francisco when you were the DA (how does a DA destroy a city? What power does the DA have to do that?)
  • You were horrible as the Attorney General, working with Gavin Newsom you destroyed California (How does an AG destroy a state? Doesn't the governor have more power?)
  • You're a disgrace to your nation you shouldn't be running for President.
  • You picked the dumbest Vice President in history maybe even dumber than you.
  • This guy is the dumbest guy -- what a choice! Somebody said you got lucky, sir, why they picked this guy he's dumb as a rock. Of course you could make the case that, you know, there's a theory -- pick a really bad vice president, that way they never get rid of you so maybe she did a very smart thing who knows.
  • We're going to say "Kamala you're horrible. Kamala, you're fired; get the hell out of here, you're useless, you're horrible, you're horrible."
  • I'll tell you what can you believe though: she's out celebrating. How do you celebrate when you're down by -- like a lot. But, uh, and you know things can happen. Number one they cheat like hell so maybe they know something that we don't right? (And right here, you see him once again plant the seed that the only way Harris can win is to cheat him out of all the lovely power he so richly deserve.)

Let me know if you can't see the words above because of TB (Trump Blindness).
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I am not sure about that. Harris is not pulling away from Trump in the polls. In fact, from all of the analysis I have been reading lately, it is essentially a toss up. Trump has the electoral advantage; Harris will get more of the popular vote. I hate to say it but I think Trump is going to win. God help us.
I don't pay attention to polls, because they are notoriously unreliable.

Now, we can see that early voting is way up, not only for registered Democrats and Republicans but Independent and other as well. But that doesnt tell you how they voted. We know today, just for example, that our Libertarian Extraordinaire, @Revoltingest, cast his ballot for the Democratic candidate. We know that many very senior Republicans in Trump's own administration have announced they're supporting Harris (it's in the hundreds, now) -- and that nobody in the Biden/Harris administration has made the converse announcement. We've seen the star power that Harris can pull -- and we've also seen the dregs that Trump dragged up as warm-up speakers for has MSG debacle.

My own view is that there are a lot more "stealth Democrats" (Republicans who are going to pull the lever for Harris -- and possibly other Democrats up and down the ticket) -- and that this time around, as in 2022, Democrats are simply going to out-perform the polls. In fact, I'm going so far as to predict somewhere between 302 and 312 EC votes.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I saw that rally. Once again, Harris did not demonstrate competence of issues, other than plagiarize Trump. It was moistly rhetoric and Fascist hate Trump mongering. She projects and blames Trump for all the short comings of the Biden Harris administration's four year disaster. If you were far left you got what you wanted but a the expense of the majority. Trump broke the border, Trump broke the economy, etc. The sad part is the Left is not swift enough to see her projections, which could explain their faux optimism.

There were a few places where the crowd stopped cheering the negativity, since, it was obvious she was lying.

Here I a good video of the two month metamorphosis and collage of the Harris campaign, from joyful warrior in the summer, to Hitler Harris down the stretch. It was from last night after the Harris Rally. She had a good summer bump with the joyful warrior approach. But the DNC decided to have her go postal and become angry, and this has led to a Trump surge and her running flat.

The undecided voters ant the negativity to end, and Hitler Harris is way too much. If you cannot rise above, try to dig a hole to place your opponent in, to the create an illusion of rising. This is shows desperation, with is noticed by the liberal media.


Democrats are completely unhinged now and running around in cheer lunacy and madness because they cant control him. That should be music to the ears of all people supporting Trump.

Let the deranged ones have their fun. That's all they have left until Trump takes office as president elect.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I saw that rally. Once again, Harris did not demonstrate competence of issues, other than plagiarize Trump. It was moistly rhetoric and Fascist hate Trump mongering. She projects and blames Trump for all the short comings of the Biden Harris administration's four year disaster. If you were far left you got what you wanted but a the expense of the majority. Trump broke the border, Trump broke the economy, etc. The sad part is the Left is not swift enough to see her projections, which could explain their faux optimism.

There were a few places where the crowd stopped cheering the negativity, since, it was obvious she was lying.

Here I a good video of the two month metamorphosis and collage of the Harris campaign, from joyful warrior in the summer, to Hitler Harris down the stretch. It was from last night after the Harris Rally. She had a good summer bump with the joyful warrior approach. But the DNC decided to have her go postal and become angry, and this has led to a Trump surge and her running flat.

The undecided voters ant the negativity to end, and Hitler Harris is way too much. If you cannot rise above, try to dig a hole to place your opponent in, to the create an illusion of rising. This is shows desperation, with is noticed by the liberal media.


LOL! Please, an idiot from FOX News? Are you trying to show that you are wrong on purpose?

Please find a lie of Harris's and I can show you ten from Trump.
 
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