Has evolution facts destroyed Adam?

[Gurtej]

Hi All

As a sikh I don't believe in Adam, there is only one reference of Adam in sikh scriptures but only as a reference point. But I know a lot of other religions have the belief that god created Adam with its own hand and that he was the first human being ever.

This belief certainly doesn't go with evolution and the evidence is so strong for evolution that u simply can't reject it. Where does this leave the beliefs and how do they contradict with evolution?

I read a lot and watched some debates regarding this and everytime evolution comes on top. Keep religious beliefs aside, do u think that science has destroyed
So called image of Adam ?

 

[Madhuri]

I think that you can't have both, so either one story is correct or the other is. To me, it seems obvious that the story of Adam and Eve is allegorical.

 

[Pegg]

Hi All

As a sikh I don't believe in Adam, there is only one reference of Adam in sikh scriptures but only as a reference point. But I know a lot of other religions have the belief that god created Adam with its own hand and that he was the first human being ever.

This belief certainly doesn't go with evolution and the evidence is so strong for evolution that u simply can't reject it. Where does this leave the beliefs and how do they contradict with evolution?

I read a lot and watched some debates regarding this and everytime evolution comes on top. Keep religious beliefs aside, do u think that science has destroyed
So called image of Adam ?

the mapping of the human genome is in agreement with the genesis account that all humans have descended from one man and one woman.

 

[Gurtej]

the mapping of the human genome is in agreement with the genesis account that all humans have descended from one man and one woman.

But we have evolved from apes? Correct , is this what gensis says?

 

[methylatedghosts]

Hi All

As a sikh I don't believe in Adam, there is only one reference of Adam in sikh scriptures but only as a reference point. But I know a lot of other religions have the belief that god created Adam with its own hand and that he was the first human being ever.

This belief certainly doesn't go with evolution and the evidence is so strong for evolution that u simply can't reject it. Where does this leave the beliefs and how do they contradict with evolution?

I read a lot and watched some debates regarding this and everytime evolution comes on top. Keep religious beliefs aside, do u think that science has destroyed
So called image of Adam ?

No, I think Adam and Eve remain a symbolic representation of where humanity may have come from. Not a literal one man and one woman, but as the female and male aspects of our true inner selves.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Logic says there must at least have been a first woman capable of breeding true. However first and only are different concepts. The step from "near human" to "fully human" may have taken place many times before the line that produced us became established.

It is doubtful that "one person" could have been known or even seen as especially "different"
They were simply part of the continuum from pre to fully human.

Adam and Eve are no more than a story to illustrate a prehistory idea of the start of the human race. As many stories do, it looks back at a "better Time" and uses fable to fill out the details.

So far the human genome has not been mapped to a single source, but it does suggest a single female line

 

[paarsurrey]

Hi All

As a sikh I don't believe in Adam, there is only one reference of Adam in sikh scriptures but only as a reference point. But I know a lot of other religions have the belief that god created Adam with its own hand and that he was the first human being ever.

This belief certainly doesn't go with evolution and the evidence is so strong for evolution that u simply can't reject it. Where does this leave the beliefs and how do they contradict with evolution?

I read a lot and watched some debates regarding this and everytime evolution comes on top. Keep religious beliefs aside, do u think that science has destroyed
So called image of Adam ?

I think you will change your opinion as you look into the etymology of the word Adam:Adam
masc. proper name, Biblical name of the first man, from Hebrew adam "man," literally "(the one formed from the) ground" (Hebrew adamah "ground"); cf. Latin homo "man," humanus "human," humus "earth, ground, soil." To not know (someone) from Adam "not know him at all" is first recorded 1784.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=AdamMeaning and etymology of the Hebrew name Adam

Adam

Traditionally, Adam is the first human male (Genesis 2:20), but here at Abarim Publications that tradition is under attack. See the name Eve or the article on The Chaotic Set Theory.

Adam is one of five words that indicate a man (words like dude, guy etc). This particular word indicates man as a being created from material; a corporeal one, as probably opposed to the non-corporeal angelic creatures who were created before Adam and who shouted for joy during the creation of the earth (Job 38:7).

The name Adam is the masculine derivation of the Hebrew root ('dm and 26). The feminine derivation (adamah) indicates the ruddy earth found in the Middle East and means acre, ground, land.
The words (adom, adem) indicate the typical red color of that earth.

The name Adam means Earthling, or rather Corporeal One.

Other names from this same stock are , Edom - the nickname of Esau - which also meaning red, ruddy, and Admah.

Other names that have to do with words that mean man are Enosh (Mortal), Gabriel (God's Guy), Methushael (Man Of God) and perhaps Zechariah (YHWH's Male) and Ishi (My Man).

A name that may be a playful reference to the name Adam is Javan, Mud Man.

http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Adam.html

The first human being that got evolved in millions of years was a man; so he was named for his attributes, distinctively different from the other animals, as man or Adam.
I think science and the truthful revealed religions don’t differ with one another, science looks into man’s material and physical development while revealed religions go beyond it and they include in it man’s capabilities in ethical, moral and spiritual without which man would hardly be above the animals.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Adam.html

The first human being that got evolved in millions of years was a man; so he was named for his attributes, distinctively different from the other animals, as man or Adam.
I think science and the truthful revealed religions don’t differ with one another, science looks into man’s material and physical development while revealed religions go beyond it and they include in it man’s capabilities in ethical, moral and spiritual without which man would hardly be above the animals.

Man is an animal
he is not above the animals.
He has proved to be the most deadly and unscrupulous killer of all the animals.

 

[Father Heathen]

the mapping of the human genome is in agreement with the genesis account that all humans have descended from one man and one woman.

Adorable, but incorrect.

 

[Koldo]

I think that you can't have both, so either one story is correct or the other is. To me, it seems obvious that the story of Adam and Eve is allegorical.

I prefer to call it fairy tale or folktale. But that is just me.

 

[Jainarayan]

the mapping of the human genome is in agreement with the genesis account that all humans have descended from one man and one woman.

That's not entirely correct, actually it's not correct at all unless the Genesis account refers to Mitochondrial Eve and Y-chromosomal Adam. All living men are descended from one common ancestor; all living females are descended from one common ancestor. However, both of those ancestors did not live at the same time in the same place. All Mitochondrial Eve and Y-chromosomal Adam means is that we are descended in one unbroken line from those two people, but there were other humans alive at the time. They simply did not have lines of descent that survived.

Mitochondrial Eve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Y-chromosomal Adam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Jainarayan]

But we have evolved from apes? Correct , is this what gensis says?

We are related to apes (actually we are apes), and have a common ancestor, but we're not evolved from apes. Apes co-evolved from a last common ancestor. The last common ancestor of humans is shared with chimpanzees. That's why we're so closely related to them, more closely related to chimpanzees than we are to any other apes, or other apes are to each other.

 

[outhouse]

But we have evolved from apes? Correct , is this what gensis says?

No primates.


Genesis was not a literal account, it has only been wrongfully translated that way due to poor interpretation by later generations of people outside the culture who originally compiled hundreds of years of previous legends and mythology from Mesopotamian sources, who had given it a 500 BC Israelite viewpoint.

 

[outhouse]

the mapping of the human genome is in agreement with the genesis account that all humans have descended from one man and one woman.

That's false Pegg

 

[Thief]

Hi All

As a sikh I don't believe in Adam, there is only one reference of Adam in sikh scriptures but only as a reference point. But I know a lot of other religions have the belief that god created Adam with its own hand and that he was the first human being ever.

This belief certainly doesn't go with evolution and the evidence is so strong for evolution that u simply can't reject it. Where does this leave the beliefs and how do they contradict with evolution?

I read a lot and watched some debates regarding this and everytime evolution comes on top. Keep religious beliefs aside, do u think that science has destroyed
So called image of Adam ?

Take either stance....I prefer evolution.....dealt with God's intervention.

But as you say....someone had to be first.
That would be Adam.

Genesis is a story of intervention.
Evolution to that point....then an alteration.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

This belief certainly doesn't go with evolution and the evidence is so strong for evolution that u simply can't reject it. Where does this leave the beliefs and how do they contradict with evolution?

There seems to be a few, current, prevalent trends regarding this. One, people claim the bible stories are inerrant, so science must be wrong. Two, people misapply scienctic concepts in an attempt to reconcile science and bible stories. Three, people claim that the stories were meant to be allegorical or metaphorical all along.

 

[Musty]

Hi All

As a sikh I don't believe in Adam, there is only one reference of Adam in sikh scriptures but only as a reference point. But I know a lot of other religions have the belief that god created Adam with its own hand and that he was the first human being ever.

This belief certainly doesn't go with evolution and the evidence is so strong for evolution that u simply can't reject it. Where does this leave the beliefs and how do they contradict with evolution?

I read a lot and watched some debates regarding this and everytime evolution comes on top. Keep religious beliefs aside, do u think that science has destroyed
So called image of Adam ?

Adam was only ever speculation but as a potential explanation for the origins of man evolution and geology strongly disprove it.

 

[Thief]

There seems to be a few, current, prevalent trends regarding this. One, people claim the bible stories are inerrant, so science must be wrong. Two, people misapply scienctic concepts in an attempt to reconcile science and bible stories. Three, people claim that the stories were meant to be allegorical or metaphorical all along.

Yeah well.....
Putting a man to sleep that he feel no pain....is anesthesia.
Removing a rib....surgical extraction of a sample.
Increasing the sample to full stature.....cloning.
Altering the genetics to change the sex as it develops...genetic engineering.

The Garden was a petri dish.
Adam was the first of mind and heart.
And Eve was made to ensure the experiment continues.

The specimens were then released into the environment.

btw...
Adam is a chosen son of God and Eve had no navel.

 

[rusra02]

Hi All

As a sikh I don't believe in Adam, there is only one reference of Adam in sikh scriptures but only as a reference point. But I know a lot of other religions have the belief that god created Adam with its own hand and that he was the first human being ever.

This belief certainly doesn't go with evolution and the evidence is so strong for evolution that u simply can't reject it. Where does this leave the beliefs and how do they contradict with evolution?

I read a lot and watched some debates regarding this and everytime evolution comes on top. Keep religious beliefs aside, do u think that science has destroyed
So called image of Adam ?

Many scientists reject the ToE outright, or seriously question it's supposed mechanisms, such as so-called "natural selection". So, IMO, the answer is a resounding No!

 

[Gurtej]

Adam was only ever speculation but as a potential explanation for the origins of man evolution and geology strongly disprove it.

When some ppl say" god created Adam with nuts own hand"..
Some questions arise:

1. How old was Adam when born?
2. Does this literal interpretation means god has hands?
3. My understanding, please correct if I am wrong here. But Adam was created before eve? Why man before a woman? What does evolution say about this.. Was the first human being ever created was a man or woman.. I guess we don't know, correct.