Has Saint Paul hijacked Christianity?

[ukok102nak]

I am not sure but, the "diatribe about Paul" was written by Kelly and NOT by you. Correct?

actually
that is a comment from her being confused
if we may say so


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[Kenny]

~;> actually not
coz if you would ask me if i want to be good i'll answer every moment though it is impossible for every humans to do that in
every moment of human time


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Actually, I think I'm right because when God said "Let me make the animals" (paraphrased) - it is has no "spiritual" application.

and....

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[savagewind]

actually
that is a comment from her being confused
if we may say so


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unto all always

Thank you. My post was to @jeager106HE made the comment to you, but the words he commented on were not your words. They were hers. LOL

 

[ukok102nak]

Actually, I think I'm right because when God said "Let me make the animals" (paraphrased) - it is has no "spiritual" application.

and....

ty

~;> no becaused to whom who is a spirit then made something which is a living creature that has no spirit then somehow it
seems not appropriate to do so
for whom who is a spirit
doesnt make a sense unto this so called
no "spiritual" application.
if we may say so


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godbless
unto all always

 

[ukok102nak]

Thank you. My post was to @jeager106HE made the comment to you, but the words he commented on were not your words. They were hers. LOL

another her
meaning she is a female
kindly correct us if we are wrong


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[savagewind]

another her
meaning she is a female
kindly correct us if we are wrong


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unto all always

@Kelly of the Phoenix is female.

 

[ukok102nak]

@Kelly of the Phoenix is female.

we already confirmed that thing
so that means the another one is not
gesh i would like to give a nickname cheetara to the another one if she was a female
if i may say so
yes its me not him ~;>


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godbless
unto all always

 

[Kenny]

~;> no becaused to whom who is a spirit then made something which is a living creature that has no spirit then somehow it
seems not appropriate to do so
for whom who is a spirit
doesnt make a sense unto this so called
no "spiritual" application.
if we may say so


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godbless
unto all always

Could you translate that into English? And how that applies to the "spiritual application" of making animals?

And, yes, you may say so

 

[savagewind]

Could you translate that into English? And how that applies to the "spiritual application" of making animals?

And, yes, you may say so

I think he is asking you how and why would a spirit (God's) make anything without spirit?

I think that even though @ukok102nak might be able to communicate in perfect English, he might not.

 

[Kenny]

I think he is asking you how and why would a spirit (God's) make anything without spirit?

I think that even though @ukok102nak might be able to communicate in perfect English, he might not.

OOOOHHHH!

Couldn't we also ask why does He HAVE to make animals with a spirit? My understanding is that they have souls. But this is more of a theological question, IMO.

The Bible is basically about man and not about animals (although animals may be included as a by-line so to speak).

 

[savagewind]

OOOOHHHH!

Couldn't we also ask why does He HAVE to make animals with a spirit? My understanding is that they have souls. But this is more of a theological question, IMO.

The Bible is basically about man and not about animals (although animals may be included as a by-line so to speak).

I agree. Though it is interesting that some people are more like animals than not.

 

[ukok102nak]

Could you translate that into English? And how that applies to the "spiritual application" of making animals?

And, yes, you may say so

I think he is asking you how and why would a spirit (God's) make anything without spirit?

I think that even though @ukok102nak might be able to communicate in perfect English, he might not.

~;> our answer would somehow fits the idea of the lady who comment unto your comment
(seems she managed to maintain her inner abilities as well)

if we may say so
meaning (sometimes the meaning of if we may say so depends unto what we are pertaining to that sometimes confused those who never ask first and
we are greatful for you ask first
if we may say so)


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godbless
unto all always

 

[Kenny]

I agree. Though it is interesting that some people are more like animals than not.

True... true...

Theologically speaking, it may have to do with God making man in His image and in His likeness. Apparently there are attributes in man that you will not find in animals making the difference when one adds a spirit to the soul.

 

[jeager106]

Animals?
We eat animals.
Most of of don't consume humans for food.

 

[Kenny]

Animals?
We eat animals.
Most of of don't consume humans for food.

Can't argue that point.

 

[ukok102nak]

True... true...

Theologically speaking, it may have to do with God making man in His image and in His likeness. Apparently there are attributes in man that you will not find in animals making the difference when one adds a spirit to the soul.

~;> apparantly we have a different perspective unto this
God making man in His image and in His likeness.
for example those some people who never believe in spirits but sometimes their spirit is willing but the flesh is weak

god and his only begotten son put a limitation unto every living things when they created all things after the light is being made unto this plane of existence

also
when they made man in their own image and their own likeness
it means they put unto man the good things inside man's heart thats why humans had this thing eversince they were created that they called conscience
where there is no known school in this reality could taught how to awaken it within its thought


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godbless
unto all always

 

[ukok102nak]

~;> as what we've said before
god and his only begotten son put a limitation unto every living things when they created all things after the light is being made unto this plane of existence

and this verse would somehow fit the idea from what we've written above
as it is written
:read:
John 1:2
The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made through him. Without him was not anything made that has been made.

by the way
did any humans teach how the female adult king cobra used to leave her infants
When the eggs start to hatch,

as they say
its instinct causes the female to leave the nest and find prey to eat so she does not eat her young. The baby king cobras, with an average length of 45 to 55 cm ...
and
that instinct would somehow leads to conscience to show that not all animals should be considered as animals only


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godbless
unto all always

 

[ronandcarol]

(the Gospels) To sum them up, it is sufficient to say that the Gospels clearly speak of the Kingdom of God, which is attainable only through men's efforts, so therefore Heaven is reached only through free will, that is, the choice of Good and the rejection of sin.
I'm not sure which Bible you read but it is impossible to get to Heaven on our efforts! I agree that the free choice that God gave us
will cause us to make many choices every day, and if you make the right choice on every thing you are faced with in life, your good
meter will be just like a stack of filth rags. You will always be wondering if the good I did today was more than the bad? It is written in the Bible that man's heart is nothing but pure evil, that is our starting point. From there our wise option is to put our faith and trust in the blood
of Jesus Christ who died for us and rose from the grave to defeat death for all those who submit their free will for God's Will for their lives.

ronandcarol

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

becaused of your kind of thinking to the gospel itself or should we say the GOOD NEWS

There are at least two "good news". In most scenarios, the good news appears to be that we should shine our light upon others. In others, we are to focus only on our own salvation like it's the membership to an exclusive club.

this idea of yours is non biblical

Which one? Do you know what goes on in the bible?

Paul was out to kill Christians. Killing an enemy can make them martyrs. Paul then had the bright idea to join Christianity and destroyed it from within.
Paul thought Christians were deviating from Judaism and participated in murder before switching tactics.
Paul is only interested in the start and then continuation of his leadership. He denounces the apostles who were actually WITH Jesus and even in at least one instance SAYS he is not speaking God's Word, but is only offering his own opinion. But, no, continue to think he's holy if that is what floats your boat. I shall not

Which part was confusing? Have you read the bible or are you one of those Chick Tract-type Christians who only know the verses you are spoonfed by ignorant people?

THOSE PEOPLE WERE BEEN PUT TO SLAVES FOR ALMOST 400 YEARS AND ONLY FOR ABOUT A SHORT TIME THEY MURMURING AND TEMPTED THE GOD

Not according to history, they weren't. Even if you discount history, where Egyptians are paid to do most of that labor we typically see in movies about the Exodus, the generation actually dragged along with Moses complained that they ate better in Egypt. Slaves get the good stuff?

I don't whitewash the characters or plots in the bible. Go to the Quran if you want that kind of thing, where random characters are all prophets and everyone supposedly is super moral. The bible would be rated NC-17 if made into a movie that actually cared about attention to detail, not Sunday school versions.
edit: Case in point, that stupid Noah movie had people whining about Noah's drunken behavior, even though IT'S IN THE BIBLE, but people like to imagine their heroes without issues, so ...

So why is it Paul's accounts are in our Bible????

I'm the one with the diatribe. It turns out that people who thought like Paul included his texts in there. I don't see the source of the confusion. Why do certain political wannabes use quotes and imagery from completely evil people? They LIKE them, that's why.

Does every Christian denomination have "it" wrong about Paul?

Only if they refuse to see people for what they are. It's not just Paul. David, Jacob, Moses ... there are tons of "heroes" in the bible who are considered great but in any other context would be villains.

@jeager106 addressed this to YOU, but he should have said it to @Kelly of the Phoenix, I think.

Expecting people who don't think about what's actually going on in texts can't be bothered with quoting someone correctly.

 

[ukok102nak]

There are at least two "good news". In most scenarios, the good news appears to be that we should shine our light upon others. In others, we are to focus only on our own salvation like it's the membership to an exclusive club.


Which one? Do you know what goes on in the bible?


Which part was confusing? Have you read the bible or are you one of those Chick Tract-type Christians who only know the verses you are spoonfed by ignorant people?


Not according to history, they weren't. Even if you discount history, where Egyptians are paid to do most of that labor we typically see in movies about the Exodus, the generation actually dragged along with Moses complained that they ate better in Egypt. Slaves get the good stuff?

I don't whitewash the characters or plots in the bible. Go to the Quran if you want that kind of thing, where random characters are all prophets and everyone supposedly is super moral. The bible would be rated NC-17 if made into a movie that actually cared about attention to detail, not Sunday school versions.
edit: Case in point, that stupid Noah movie had people whining about Noah's drunken behavior, even though IT'S IN THE BIBLE, but people like to imagine their heroes without issues, so ...


I'm the one with the diatribe. It turns out that people who thought like Paul included his texts in there.


Only if they refuse to see people for what they are. It's not just Paul. David, Jacob, Moses ... there are tons of "heroes" in the bible who are considered great but in any other context would be villains.


Expecting people who don't think about what's actually going on in texts can't be bothered with quoting someone correctly.

~;> IN THE BIBLE, but people like to imagine their heroes without issues, so ...
thats what you do most
and
so the rest of your opinion were still a bads new for you
where you cant even put a single verse in the bible
to prove your clamed about paul
where your action is different from
your words such as this one
I don't whitewash the characters or plots in the bible

as far as what weve seen here
you know that we really know what goes on in the bible more than you do

for
it is only you who is confused not us
as you were being confused unto things such as this
:read: (learn with good news and not all the bad news that you eagerly want to push more unto
the written words of god itself)
1 Corinthians 2:13
Which things also we speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual things.

study this or research anything about it
so that you may not be confused again
becaused of your reasoning that is
base unto
a system of biblical interpretation taught by man
which is again a bad news for you coz
unfortunately for you
we are talkin about IN THE BIBLE here
and
not somekind of hearsay the way you do
if we may say so


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godbless
unto all always