Has the eugenics movement really ended?

[an anarchist]

It is not a conspiracy theory that there was a large eugenics movement in the USA during the early 1900’s. The history was even taught in my job training when I was trying to get into behavioral health.

Tens of thousands of mentally ill people were legally and forcibly sterilized in the USA.

Involuntary Sterilization of Disabled Americans: An Historical Overview

A 1927 Supreme Court case (Buck v. Bell) legalized forced sterilization of people with disabilities. This law has never been overturned.

www.abclawcenters.com

Then WW2 happened and Hitler gave eugenics a bad name. So eugenics is now a thing of the past… or so the story goes.

The crux of all “conspiracy theories” is that the eugenics movement has not ended, but is in fact in full force. And you and me both are undesirables to the elite ruling class.

The friggin “conspiracy” news site I used to rely on for information is now paywalled. I don’t blame him, as YouTube scrubbed his content off their platform. Point is, I can’t back up the claims that the eugenics movement is happening. If I could get behind the paywall, it’d be easy. There is plenty plenty evidence that the eugenics movement never ended.

I wanted to make this thread and ask you guys if you think the eugenics movement ended. Don’t try to deny that it ever was a thing; it is an established fact that eugenics was authorized by the US government.

You may want to say that the burden of proof is on me, but I say it is on both sides. The US government sterilized tens of thousands of mentally ill people in the name of eugenics. So it is reasonable to question if the attitude is still present in some shape or form.

Did eugenics truly end?

 

[an anarchist]

@Estro Felino don’t leave me alone on this thread

 

[Estro Felino]

I believe it still exists underground, but it's insignificant by the very low number of its followers.
In my humble opinion, I am probably wrong.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

I can't really see , how everyone can't see, a very large wall of selection pressure existing, without anyone trying, just by comparing how life is lived in modern times, compared to any time in the past. So many rapid changes, and that is all selection pressure I think.

 

[Quintessence]

Whether or not it is believed to have ended, human overpopulation and immigration makes it irrelevant. There is simply not enough direct control over the breeding of humans and movement of humans for it to have any meaningful impact.

 

[PureX]

It wasn't just in the U.S.

Eugenics was an idea that was being seriously floated all across the modern world thanks to the advances in science at that time

Science is amoral, and it very often comes with a built-in urge to "do it" just because we now find that we can.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It is not a conspiracy theory that there was a large eugenics movement in the USA during the early 1900’s. The history was even taught in my job training when I was trying to get into behavioral health.

Tens of thousands of mentally ill people were legally and forcibly sterilized in the USA.

Involuntary Sterilization of Disabled Americans: An Historical Overview

A 1927 Supreme Court case (Buck v. Bell) legalized forced sterilization of people with disabilities. This law has never been overturned.

www.abclawcenters.com

Then WW2 happened and Hitler gave eugenics a bad name. So eugenics is now a thing of the past… or so the story goes.

The crux of all “conspiracy theories” is that the eugenics movement has not ended, but is in fact in full force. And you and me both are undesirables to the elite ruling class.

The friggin “conspiracy” news site I used to rely on for information is now paywalled. I don’t blame him, as YouTube scrubbed his content off their platform. Point is, I can’t back up the claims that the eugenics movement is happening. If I could get behind the paywall, it’d be easy. There is plenty plenty evidence that the eugenics movement never ended.

I wanted to make this thread and ask you guys if you think the eugenics movement ended. Don’t try to deny that it ever was a thing; it is an established fact that eugenics was authorized by the US government.

You may want to say that the burden of proof is on me, but I say it is on both sides. The US government sterilized tens of thousands of mentally ill people in the name of eugenics. So it is reasonable to question if the attitude is still present in some shape or form.

Did eugenics truly end?

No because eugenics is tremondously useful and practical.

In vitro fertilization has given away to a quest for designer babies to improve things like height and intelligence.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Nope. Transhumanism is a form of eugenics and it's a driving ideology of the tech oligarchs like Musk. You also see it in people thinking it's okay to abort babies suspected of having Down's Syndrome. It never went away, just got better PR which had to change after WW2.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Then WW2 happened and Hitler gave eugenics a bad name.

No. The eugenics movement gave Hitler a bad idea.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

In vitro fertilization has given away to a quest for designer babies to improve things like height and intelligence.

and that's basically genetic engineering , or is that something different.. I thought they were getting to where they can actually go in with a computer and edit stuff around

 

[HonestJoe]

Did eugenics truly end?

I don't think it's a simple question. The term could be used to cover a vast range and scale of things, and plenty of people would consider one aspect abhorrent while being accepting or even supportive of another.

I think this is really a broader question, of the balance between the good of individuals and the good of the overall group (or sub-groups within it). Animal instincts indirectly balance that question and human intelligence just complicates the matter for our societies. This means that there will likely always be attitudes, policies or actions which could be terms "eugenics" somewhere, just like we'll always have theft, rape and murder. What we'll also always have is people criticising their "eugenics" while ignoring or defending our "eugenics".

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Genetic engineering is here to stay.
Eugenics as a sort of racial purity tool. Is dead but still close to the surface.